***** Knull (King In Black) *****
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HoundofShadow said:
I assume Okoye or Apocalypse can boost this reflected damage as well.
@Thanos have you tested this?
After Thanos comments, I think he is another meh char.
Also Spidey2099 buffs any match damage from your team in three colors with a passive.... bastly superior to what Knull is doing here (if you just want match damage buffed by Okoye/Apoc).0 -
Friendly strike tiles increase only your own powers and doesn't increase enemy powers, right?
In the second node today, I took 255 damage from a red match 3, with 0 enemy strike tile on the board. The reflected damage should be 84. However, it was ~492. (255*33%)+(136*3 of Knull's strike tiles). This is how I infer that Okoye or Apocalypse could work. Of course, it might not work for boost via power.0 -
Polares said:Actually it may not. When the damage focus is from your own teammate those powers dont buff the damage, so depending how the game treats that damage (coming from the enemy or coming from Knull) it might get buffed or not.
@Thanos have you tested this?
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HoundofShadow said:Friendly strike tiles increase only your own powers and doesn't increase enemy powers, right?
In the second node today, I took 255 damage from a red match 3, with 0 enemy strike tile on the board. The reflected damage should be 84. However, it was ~492. (255*33%)+(136*3 of Knull's strike tiles). This is how I infer that Okoye or Apocalypse could work. Of course, it might not work for boost via power.0 -
Unfortunately, it doesn't get a boost from Okoye and Apocalypse. At least, there's still strike tiles. Knull looks like a skip for now, but he can't be skipped unless you got Wanda champed. Let's see who's the next 5*.
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Polares said:HoundofShadow said:Friendly strike tiles increase only your own powers and doesn't increase enemy powers, right?
In the second node today, I took 255 damage from a red match 3, with 0 enemy strike tile on the board. The reflected damage should be 84. However, it was ~492. (255*33%)+(136*3 of Knull's strike tiles). This is how I infer that Okoye or Apocalypse could work. Of course, it might not work for boost via power.
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Thanos said:The reflect damage is so minuscule and if there's only one opponent left, it does nothing.0
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That's not the reflected damage. It's from his passive purple power or his green CD.
However, his purple active power/red CD won't reflect damage if there's only one opponent left.0 -
HoundofShadow said:That's not the reflected damage. It's from his passive purple power or his green CD.
However, his purple active power/red CD won't reflect damage if there's only one opponent left.0 -
In this video
https://streamable.com/2oqn9u
The red CDs are targeted at Sentry. He is the last one standing.
There are 3 friendly strike tiles on the board: 136*3= 408
Knull's passive purple deals 581 damage and his powers ignore protect tiles.
Sentry dealt 1417 damage to Knull. If it does reflect damage, Sentry would have taken (1417*33%)+408= 876 damage.
However, he took 989 damage instead.
408 + 581 = 989
So, his purple CD ddidn't reflect damage.
What happened is that the banner "Damage Reflected" was displayed before the damage; thus, causing you to believe that it does reflect damage.1 -
Firing his black only results in disappointment...1
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I sure may be missing something, but he doesn't seem all that. Yes, I don't have him champed yet but on paper at first glance he sounded amazing. He seems more mid-tier than I thought he would be and, at this point, I am contemplating not skipping Sighclops (just in case there's bigger Phoenix5 synergy coming down the path). I will still try to get Knull, but it's not the life altering character I think we were all hoping for with him.1
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After playing his PvP a bit. If he was a 4* he would be an good third for Pocket and a decent counter since Polaris has a low health pool. Maybe even better with Grockamora. He might be ok as a solo 5* since he has pretty good synergy with Grocket.0
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OK. Nevermind. I am probably an idiot. Just finished playing with him in PVP and that Reflection of Damage boosted by APOC is pretty nice. And this is with an unchamped character. He definitely isn't mid tier. Maybe not meta changing but you can't hide a low health 4* easily (Polaris, Grocket, Chavez) f you are playing him.0
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Only strike tiles boost his reflected damage. Apocalypse doesn't. What you saw was his passive purple power getting boosted from Apocalypse.0
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HoundofShadow said:Only strike tiles boost his reflected damage. Apocalypse doesn't. What you saw was his passive purple power getting boosted from Apocalypse.0
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So in PvP events, in 5star land, it's rare the loaner can do big damage.
I found knull to be suprisingly helpful0 -
I have never, ever been unshielded before in PVP overnight and come back with positive points. I gained about 18 points overnight in my SCL10 slice. I'm running champed 470 BRB and max champed 370 Polaris with my loaner Knull.0
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LavaManLee said:I have never, ever been unshielded before in PVP overnight and come back with positive points. I gained about 18 points overnight in my SCL10 slice. I'm running champed 470 BRB and max champed 370 Polaris with my loaner Knull.0
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in this PVP going against IHulk it was nice getting The opponents IHulk down to 1HP and letting IHulk kill his own team. Also with using Apoc and BRB my loaner took most of the damage. I feel in a pick 3 he might not always be the best, but as a 3rd he is going to be really useful.He also worked well with Polaris with Polaris spamming tiles0
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