Enable supports in PVP

ursopro

I think is about time, thanks.

The rockett

No, it is not.  Thanks. 

Borstock

Shield hopping, now with more losses than ever!

McPosterson

No no no

MegaBee

Even having a decent RTF, I think this is a terrible idea.

SnowcaTT

Sounds like OP got lucky on RTF pulls!

Unlike, say, most of us. Supports in PVP would make there be a second place for RNG to screw over folks. At least you can work your way towards characters, through shards and hoards. I have four 550's....and one 5* support. D3 has left me no way towards progression.

As a Steam user, wish I had some way to 'fix' RNG. But I'm sure it's 100% the same for everyone, no one has a hand up over me. Nope. Not at all.

LavaManLee

I would never play PVP again if this happened.  Supports are too random and based on luck.

Rhipf

Supports shouldn't be added to PvP until there is a way of reliably getting high level (rank 3-5) supports. Currently there are very few ways to get pulls from the higher ranking support vaults.

I would personally say that supports should never be allowed in PvP though.

ursopro

SnowcaTT said:

Sounds like OP got lucky on RTF pulls!

no rumors or misinformation please, I don't want to have my thread locked again

Rhipf said:

Supports shouldn't be added to PvP until there is a way of reliably getting high level (rank 3-5) supports. Currently there are very few ways to get pulls from the higher ranking support vaults.

I would personally say that supports should never be allowed in PvP though.

but there is a way now, with the new Supports Gauntlet everyone can have a 3 - 5 rank support.

I think having supports in PvP could go a long way to balancing the meta issues we are suffering right now because of O****

Waddles_Pines

LavaManLee said:

I would never play PVP again if this happened.  Supports are too random and based on luck.

Hmm, I agree with you, but it would also "free" me from playing pvp

Kolence

Nope. 

But for the sake of conversation... (and because "Nope." was two characters too short)

I'd be OK with 6* that have built-in supports as a 4th, pasive ability. Only the good stuff too...

tupacboy

No no no no

BlackBoltRocks

ursopro said:

I think having supports in PvP could go a long way to balancing the meta issues we are suffering right now because of O****

I don't even know where to start with this trainwreck.
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Sigh. First calling to nerf Okoye, now calling for Supports in PvP.

This sad mess will never stop eh.

ursopro

ok fellow mpquesters, can we get some solid arguments in favor or against the idea instead of noping everything right off the bat?

I start:

Pro: it will speed exponentially the duration of pvp matches.

Cons: some players may have no access to some meta defining supports.

Feel free to contribute.

Akoni

ursopro said:

ok fellow mpquesters, can we get some solid arguments in favor or against the idea instead of noping everything right off the bat?

I start:

Pro: it will speed exponentially the duration of pvp matches.

Cons: some players may have no access to some meta defining supports.

Feel free to contribute.

In big business, it is common for the biggest companies to send lobbyists to Washington. They will often say that they are self-regulating, but in actuality, what is happening is they are setting laws in place that require certain standards and services to be employed. It turns out only the top X% of companies have the resources to meet those requirements so the smaller businesses get snuffed out leaving all the prizes of doing business to go to the big companies.

Allowing supports in PVP is like passing those laws. Sure, everyone can use supports, but who has the biggest and most powerful supports? Those who consistently win in PVP, the big companies, or in this case, the biggest players. My measly, but delicious level 3 Chimichanga Tex-Mex Delicacy has no chance against a team wielding 3 infinity stones. As a result, I will get snuffed out just like those small businesses.

SourCream

Enable support will trivialize PVP even more than Okoye + Hulk. With Apocalypse, you can basically win on first turn without doing a match. It'll benefit some viewers players only and lessen the playing experience for the majority.

HoundofShadow

Imagine, at the start of the game...

Your opponent got + 12 green or yellow ap

OR

You are facing against a team consisting of Vulture and 3* Iron Fist, with +6 black ap and + 12 purple ap...

And many more...

Disabling supports for AI will never happen because it simply trivalize pvps. Worst of all, You will get hit even faster. Say, normally, you can beat two teams before you get beat down once, but with the enabling of supports, other players can beat you down 3-4 times instead... 

DAZ0273

It would be a bit like playing that old favourite Boss Rush! You finished a wave/Boss and then all of a sudden your next opponent has *all* the AP and you were dead! Except from turn 1!

DAZ0273

Well even from an attacking point of view it would be pretty meaningless to me as I don't have anything very game changing. I have exactly one 4* Support being Arc Reactor and if you think I am taking a 5/0/1 Iron Man into PvP you have another thing coming!

sambrookjm

ursopro said:

ok fellow mpquesters, can we get some solid arguments in favor or against the idea instead of noping everything right off the bat?

Nope.

DAZ0273

Jenson has spoken.