Quest: Buy a New PW. ...But I already have all of them...

jobob
jobob Posts: 680 Critical Contributor
Just my opinion, but I don’t think quests should be given out that aren’t possible to complete.

And yes, I realize I can re-roll, or wait for Ashiok to come out, but that’s still poor design for a DAILY quest.  Same goes for the “level a PW” quest for people who have already maxed them out.

If there’s not going to be some sort of roster check to determine if it’s a valid quest... this should probably be removed as a daily objective.
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  • Mburn7
    Mburn7 Posts: 3,427 Chairperson of the Boards
    This is the exact sort of quest we specifically asked to not be included in the system, for this exact reason.
    And with how expensive re-rolls are you're basically stuck with a dud quest until it expires or whatever.

    I agree these should definitely be removed from the books.
  • Bubbles_CS
    Bubbles_CS Posts: 332 Mover and Shaker
    I had a “level a pw 10 levels” quest that I rerolled. As long as there aren’t too many quests requiring a new pw, I’m fine with a reroll, but now I feel like I need to time my next pw purchase with a quest, which also means I have to hold onto a nice pile of crystals, just in case. That timing bit is really what drags on me here, especially if I will need to complete this specific quest to complete the journal.
  • DragonSorcerer
    DragonSorcerer Posts: 182 Tile Toppler
    Both of these and craft a booster are ones I can't do 
  • Bubbles_CS
    Bubbles_CS Posts: 332 Mover and Shaker
    I would advocate for some “super-quests” available outside the journal rotation like max level-up 50 planeswalkers or master 5,000 cards or master 50 full-art cards. Large-scale stuff to reward those with larger, fuller collections. The numbers I gave here “felt right” but aren’t based on anything.
  • Firstofhisname419
    Firstofhisname419 Posts: 133 Tile Toppler
    I still don't have quests or journals, so I guess I don't have to worry about that problem. 
  • Gunmix25
    Gunmix25 Posts: 1,442 Chairperson of the Boards
    Mburn7 said:
    This is the exact sort of quest we specifically asked to not be included in the system, for this exact reason.
    And with how expensive re-rolls are you're basically stuck with a dud quest until it expires or whatever.

    I agree these should definitely be removed from the books.
    I had the raise PWs 20 levels quest. Luckily I had two bad Chandra PWs I hadn't maxed out (which I usually do) and received the quest rewards but still.
  • Tezzeret
    Tezzeret Posts: 223 Tile Toppler
    yuck.. Im really glad I'm reading this now.. ill make.sure not to level-up one of the walkers I buy when the holiday sale roles around for when (if) the quest system rolls out to everyone.

    I agree that this is a poor quest inclusion....Im  hoping as we progress through  the quest system  down the line they have  quests geared for veteran players with some insane objectives like:

    -have a creature with a1000+ power
    -finish the round in 1 turn
    -have 100 cards in your graveyard
    -win with  dealing damage from cards that arnt yours
    -make 200 tokens

  • HomeRn
    HomeRn Posts: 330 Mover and Shaker
    I agree with this "impossible quest" issue.  There needs to be checks and safeguards against getting (or even worse, re-rolling) quests you literally cannot do because of your current state.  Nothing like being locked out of rewards and content all because of how you play the game!
    I had something like this happen yesterday, got a daily quest where I needed to buy a new PW.  Problem is that I have no PWs available to purchase.  Thankfully re-rolled it to one where I could complete it on the free re-roll!
  • Bil
    Bil Posts: 831 Critical Contributor
    edited December 2020
    I suppose the proper thing to do is just to get rid of the dailies that require specific Walkers, currency investment and so on ... they should just focus on gameplay mechanics.

    Any daily that ask you to invest currency on something you were not willing to buy in the first place IS a wrong Idea ... In particular when a reroll IS that expensive. 

    Dailies are supposed to be attractive due to their rewards ... If you have to sacrifice more than you'll gain there's something wrong in the design.

    Overall, i see no diference beetween 
    players that cant do a quest because they already have the Walkers and players that can't afford buying it. Both should be able to perfom ANY of the quests.

    In that perspective the reroll should Also be more of a comfort feature, instead of a Desperate lucky try.
  • spellsmasher
    spellsmasher Posts: 55 Match Maker
    I oddly enough got both the level a planeswalker quest and but a new walker quest, both i felt were a bit unfair. I rerolled the purchase one (it was Monday), but picked up mirror mage, and got the level 10 levels one done. Both I think should be excluded at some point in progression.

    It might be fun to have a monthly goal of master x cards, or complete some insane number of matches, eg like 200 matches in the month, which is only like 7 matches per day less than the playing daily to would have,  for a decent reward. The rewards are kind of interesting for the beta, it seems like this feature was stuck in dev for a while, a m20 pack? 
  • DragonSorcerer
    DragonSorcerer Posts: 182 Tile Toppler
    Had the raise PW 20 levels today, can't do that so rerolled, got buy a new PW, can't do that either. Hmmmm. 
  • Bubbles_CS
    Bubbles_CS Posts: 332 Mover and Shaker
    Reroll again tomorrow, I guess. The bummer is the hard pass to the next Journal at the end of each Sunday.

    I got “open three packs” this week which is not so bad, since even the free 6hr packs count towards it.
  • DragonSorcerer
    DragonSorcerer Posts: 182 Tile Toppler
    Typical, the next day there is a new PW to buy !