Avacyn's Madness - Bonus Bug

TheHunter
TheHunter Posts: 327 Mover and Shaker
in MtGPQ Bugs & Technical Issues
On Node 3 vs Watcher in the Web, the second bonus is "Summon zero creatures with lifelink"

I had Shadowspear in play, which was fine with the first creature I cast, but when I reinforced the creature it counted it against the bonus. This happened twice, with two different creatures in first slot. Neither creature had lifelink, except that given to it by Shadowspear. 3 points gone!

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  • Opperstamper
    Opperstamper Posts: 161 Tile Toppler
    That's because there's strange behavior in the "summon" mechanic. If the objective would have been "cast", it would work like you describe (or that's what I expect at least). 
  • TheHunter
    TheHunter Posts: 327 Mover and Shaker
    Opperstamper said:
    That's because there's strange behavior in the "summon" mechanic. If the objective would have been "cast", it would work like you describe (or that's what I expect at least). 
    So still a bug? I summoned a creature with no lifelink, pretty frustrating to get penalised for it! 
  • Opperstamper
    Opperstamper Posts: 161 Tile Toppler
    Hard to tell if this is intended or not. If you cast a creature without lifelink, no problem. If that creature gains lifelink from another source while entering the battlefield, the "summon" mechanic kicks in and fails the objective.

    Usually cast or summon only looks at the way the creature enters the battlefield, but in this unique case it looks at how the lifelink keyword enters the battlefield. 

    The question is: is it normal for a keyword to enter the battlefield, apart from a creature that enters the battlefield? 
  • Danicidreira
    Danicidreira Posts: 3 Just Dropped In
    Hi,

    I'm having trouble in that node too, but the game Just freezes and turno all black!

    So frustaiting.
     
  • naabaldan
    naabaldan Posts: 576 Critical Contributor
    A black screen apears in case the app is not able to handle events anymore.
    This happens often since the last maintaince, leading to the assumption that the server side is not responding anymore in those cases.
  • Opperstamper
    Opperstamper Posts: 161 Tile Toppler
    critman said:
    Opperstamper said:

    The question is: is it normal for a keyword to enter the battlefield, apart from a creature that enters the battlefield? 
    I think the question really is: if a situation is ambiguous enough that players often can't tell whether it would work one way or the other, and it routinely annoys them if it happens to work against them, then why not make it work in their favor?
    That wouldn't make it any clearer. Apparently the rulebook states that added evergreens (now made visual in yellow) are imprinted upon casting, or call it "on the stack" in paper Magic terms, so before entering the battlefield.

    All we need is a copy of that rulebook. 

    Another solution would be to change the Lifeless objective from "summon" to "cast". Outside Story mode that objective is only used in 2 different events. Impact would be small, and it prevents frustration. But it wouldn't add to our understanding of the rulebook that way. Even the opposite I'd say, because we would know it works for us, but not why. 

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