PVE- The troll continues

supergarv

Hehe.

After mindless waiting in first sub and a rather simple second sub, this third one really knows how to not even boost everyone but troll everyone.

Whales may be annoyed because their time advantage in PVE is mostly gone here. Everyone with 5Thanos and Groot can finish any node in max 2 matches.

Non-whale players get to lick some blood how it is to play with 550 chars, and that is really close to pay to win. Now I know why I can rarely get T5 placement no matter how fast I play and how well I snipe a bracket.

What I find most funny is that it still takes roughly 18mins for a whale to play pve because all the reward claiming and roster clicking and tile placement is taking that time. If I add up all my moves I made, that would add up to about 3 minutes of active play...

bluewolf

Why is this a troll?  This is awesome.  Faster clears for everyone, use your best combos.  Be warned the nodes might be a little rough.  5E is Grockdusa.

The top players in the game have spreadsheets and timers to allow them to finish nodes in just the right order and squeeze out a few more points.  So yeah.  If you're not doing that you're not finishing T5.

This is exhibit A why there will never be a 6* tier and why the meta has stayed the same for years.  The turn 0 strike placement - there's really nothing more that can be done to top that in PVE.  Same with instant powerful AOE.

Whales were already winning the event, mostly (5th in my bracket is someone with 470s) and one sub won't change that.

supergarv

I‘d take a 5* to the buy club if he could double gameplay speed or remove tile placement delays/remove banners.

A 5* deadpool could break that fourth wall powerwise XD

TeamStewie

I enjoyed the 3rd sub. It was fun.

bluewolf

People who are doing 5X right away may come up short on progression in this one.  The points requirement is higher relative to the node points.

Tony_Foot

Loved it.

Wonko33

Man the 5* high level match damage IS insane!

PiMacleod

bluewolf said:

People who are doing 5X right away may come up short on progression in this one.  The points requirement is higher relative to the node points.

And i HATE it.  

Im a progression player.  Thats it.  Never desired for competitive rewards.  So when i found that 4 clears of ALL nodes got you all progression rewards in every PVE (with some requiring maybe a little less), ive been doing that for a long while now.

Now this?!  4 clears didnt cut it.  Not even close!  And no warning either!

Very frustrating.

AXP_isme

I was surprised by that too. Normally I do four clears of every node near the beginning and then come back if I happen to be free close to the end time. That never fails to get me to full progression. In this event it feels like they missed a node on every map, or even another full map, or something like that. Not getting full progression after four clears, with no warning, feels like a kick in the teeth. 

What am I saying? Expecting communication about a change.... hahahaha. 

sambrookjm

I'm just treating this final sub like a "Thanos is powered up" event.  How many characters can his "Court Death" take out by the end of the 4 clears?

bluewolf said:

People who are doing 5X right away may come up short on progression in this one.  The points requirement is higher relative to the node points.

 I bet some of the people who are missing with their 5x clears didn't realize that the final "boss" node in each round can also be cleared more than once...

Kolence

sambrookjm said:

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bluewolf said:

People who are doing 5X right away may come up short on progression in this one.  The points requirement is higher relative to the node points.

 I bet some of the people who are missing with their 5x clears didn't realize that the final "boss" node in each round can also be cleared more than once...

No, that's not it.

Here are the nodes and points values from the pve details google doc https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19iWb3XtfSfkryP6ABjGDMiF73YJEEUSNY8-5R_Ye5YE :  

Node	Points	Node	Points	Node	Points
Programmed to Destroy	100	No Civilians Beyond This Point	150	Destination: New Dimension!	200
By The Book	220	Civil Disputes	330	The Competition Begins!	440
Empty-Headed Enemies	220	Iron Army	330	Cerebro's Crystalline Network	440
Strange Soldiers	310	On Whose Authority?	465	Coveted Crystal	620
Escape Plan (w)	420	Double-Breasted Turncoat (w)	630	Crystal Powers (w)	840
A Strange Encounter	340	Side of the Law or Side of the Rebel	510	Defeating Doom	680
2* Essential	370	2* Essential	555	2* Essential	740
3* Essential	400	3* Essential	600	3* Essential	800
4* Essential	430	4* Essential	645	4* Essential	860
5* Essential (not req'd.)	160	5* Essential (not req'd.)	240	5* Essential (not req'd.)	320

When you add up all the repeatable nodes first 5x clears and first 3x for the wave node, without the 5-essential, for the first sub, it's ~12,273 points. Do that with all the subs and you'd end up with ~55,230 points. And the progression is set to 62,000 points.

Now, if you could do the wave nodes 4x for full points (before the timer starts), and if you added 5-essential node points from CL 7 also cleared 5x, you'd end up with ~62,370 points, just over the progression.

It definitely looks like some kind of oversight to me.

DAZ0273

I noticed something was screwy on day 2. I am by no means a competitive PvE player or even always play to full progression but I do always check the values to reach the score for what I want if time is an issue as it often is. I was playing up in SCL9 so couldn't get all the 5E points but it became pretty apparent that I was going to need to clear at least half of day 3 *just* to get the 4*. On a normal PvE you would have already bagged that by end of day 2 or be very very close on a 3 day event, this time points were miles away.

Steel_Colt

I noticed the points being off after initial clears. Normally, 4 clearing everything but the 5E (clearing that twice) nets you the herioc token.
I didn't get that one, so that was the first hint for me. 

randomhero1090

I was happy to see it.  It was fun.