Next Shield Training's required 4* -- Capworth or Torch?
Yepyep
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Do we have any information yet on this? Or are there historical data that indicate which (or both? god forbid...) is likely to be required?
Mine are both poorly covered, and realistically I will only be able to get one of them -- if that -- to 10 covers using bonus hero designation. What are others of you doing about this?
Mine are both poorly covered, and realistically I will only be able to get one of them -- if that -- to 10 covers using bonus hero designation. What are others of you doing about this?
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The history of Shield Training since approx Emma's release is that you can predict one of the required people from the placement rewards in the PVE prior to release.
From the App store notes, we know SM2099 to release on 10/10. The PVE prior is DP v MPQ which rewards Torch, so unless they break their 14 month long pattern, he will be one of the essentials.
I cannot predict the other two since there's no pattern that I can discern there any more.
EDIT: I don't think one of the other two will be Brokencap. I feel certain of that.3 -
I’m hoping it’s Worthy. He’s the one I want to cover first. But chances are it’ll be Hammond since he was released first....
I’m still BHing Worthy anyways...0 -
I'm SOL either way.3
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It SHOULD be either Juggernaut or Jim Torch.
Juggernaut might get skipped though.
I doubt it will be WorthyCap because he has not been rewarded as Placement or Progression in a PVE (outside of his release).
I've got a 1 3 5 Jim Torch and a 2 4 2 WorhtyCap, and set both as Bonus Hero until we know which is needed, so I should hopefully be ready either way...1 -
Torch is offered in placement in the event before, and will be offered in progression in the PVE event that starts at the same time as Shield Training. Based on that, it should be him. That much, the devs have been consistent on for over a year.
The other two? No idea, because that's one of the few areas the devs don't actually stick to a predictable pattern.2 -
Definitely won't be Juggs since he was an essential in Worthy Caps release.It seems that every other 4* release is the one required for ST since they seem to skip a fair number of them from being required. But based on Torch being in the prior PvE I fear it's going to be him (0/1/4) vs Worthy Cap (3/2/2).While I appreciate Taskmaster being the Shield Sim cover, it's normally the 4* required for ST who is the Shield Sim cover so we all miss out on a cover there we desperately need. Torch has not been in any vaults or any PvE/PvP events since his initial release so I imagine VERY VERY few having him covered or even close to being covered since he just went into tokens.Given this release is during anniversary they *should* make the 3rd character either Dino or Taskmaster rather than Torch/Cap.KGB1
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will this be the all-limited shield training?0
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My Torch is ready to go and I think one of the other two will be Spiderverse, maybe Miles, to compliment 2099. The third could be Domino or Cloak and Dagger to generate blacks for 2099.0
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Excellent, thanks everyone. The point about the reward in PvE prior is an especially good one. I'll BH Mr. Hammond.0
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shardwick said:My Torch is ready to go and I think one of the other two will be Spiderverse, maybe Miles, to compliment 2099. The third could be Domino or Cloak and Dagger to generate blacks for 2099.0
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Considering that I've only pulled 4 bonus heroes in my last 194 latest legend or 25 CP stores, it doesn't matter who I bonus. I'll never get enough to cover either.0
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It could be possible that all three will be older characters. Spidey 2099's will be the 34th Shield Training.
Based on past history, the following shield trainings used all older characters:
#1, #8, #15, #17, #22, #26, #30, ?
#34? (guess)
On average, out of every 4 or 5 shield trainings, one requires all older characters.5 -
It's also possible that we'll see three classic characters for SHIELD Training. While they have been picking extremely new characters recently, they've at least been available as the final progression reward in the Simulator, and been available in packs for a while. Neither of those is true for Torch.
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Monsoon3 said:Considering that I've only pulled 4 bonus heroes in my last 194 latest legend or 25 CP stores, it doesn't matter who I bonus. I'll never get enough to cover either.0
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Yepyep said:Monsoon3 said:Considering that I've only pulled 4 bonus heroes in my last 194 latest legend or 25 CP stores, it doesn't matter who I bonus. I'll never get enough to cover either.
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jamesh said:Yepyep said:Monsoon3 said:Considering that I've only pulled 4 bonus heroes in my last 194 latest legend or 25 CP stores, it doesn't matter who I bonus. I'll never get enough to cover either.It does in this game, though - Bonus Hero pulls are pre-determined, like 5* pulls.So, eventually that bad streak WILL even out.It migh take a few thousand pulls, though.1
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Bowgentle said:jamesh said:Yepyep said:Monsoon3 said:Considering that I've only pulled 4 bonus heroes in my last 194 latest legend or 25 CP stores, it doesn't matter who I bonus. I'll never get enough to cover either.It does in this game, though - Bonus Hero pulls are pre-determined, like 5* pulls.So, eventually that bad streak WILL even out.It migh take a few thousand pulls, though.
It is using a PRNG, yes. But the point of a good PRNG is to produce output that is indistinguishable from genuine random data (assuming you don't have access to the seed). If the PRNG was more likely to end a losing streak than genuine random data, then it would be a bad PRNG.
With that said, the law of large numbers says that the more pulls you make, the more likely you will see a win. That is independent of what has come before though.
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The rewards in the PVE prior to a new character's release have determined one of the essentials for the last 18 releases.
Any time you can find 3 Classic Essentials, the PVE prior rewarded a Classic character in placement.
This is because their pattern (being followed for a very long time now, about since they ended Latest weighting) is to offer 3 Latests (the 3 most recent characters in tokens) in PVE, then offer 2 Classics, then repeat. (There was a period of about a month early this year when they ONLY offered Classics.)
They have, by the way, changed up the order they reward the Latest people in, and that doesn't always follow a set pattern.
Aside: The length of time a character is in tokens has no bearing on whether they are an ST essential.
I will be more than happy to see Torch NOT be an essential, but the spreadsheet is suggesting to me that they will just follow business as usual and not try to do something different/nice for Anniversary.0 -
Bowgentle said:jamesh said:Yepyep said:Monsoon3 said:Considering that I've only pulled 4 bonus heroes in my last 194 latest legend or 25 CP stores, it doesn't matter who I bonus. I'll never get enough to cover either.It does in this game, though - Bonus Hero pulls are pre-determined, like 5* pulls.So, eventually that bad streak WILL even out.It migh take a few thousand pulls, though.0
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