Endgame Support Vault Odds

Dormammu

Wow.

1 in 250 for rank 5
1 in 71 for rank 4
1 in 14 for rank 3

The dilution in there makes a pull in Classic Legends look favorable. Don't think I'll be wasting any HP in this.

Malcrof

i got a 10 pack, ended with only riso for my troubles, not even a perk on something unlocked.  

Borstock

It's an interesting concept, but supports remain a luxury more than anything else. Not going to waste valuable HP on those odds.

Hard pass.

MoonKnight

It would be more tolerable I think if the pricing were similar to heroic 40x packs. A lot of players have been priced out of this store given the listed price as it is now.

randomhero1090

MoonKnight said:

It would be more tolerable I think if the pricing were similar to heroic 40x packs. A lot of players have been priced out of this store given the listed price as it is now.

This pricing does seem to be a bit much.  Hard pass here.

Dormammu

Right? Basically $100 for 40 pulls. So after $500 worth of pulls it would be well within the listed odds to not get a single rank 5 support.

HoundofShadow

Bought one and got a dupe, which is expected based on probability. I will be buying one every day. 

At least the HP cost has been reduced.

KC_Hammer

I have all the characters, and i make way more HP than i spend on PVP shields so I will probably get one a day. Got a dup today but 250 HP at this point is pretty much negligible. 

bluewolf

If you're curious about the odds of getting one of the new Supports from a token/pull, it's about 26%, then divided by 4.  Or like a bit more than 6% on each new one.

Unfortunately the odds don't change with a bundle.  You're just buying the exact same chance 10 or 40 X.

Warbeast_7

I bought a single pack and got the arc reactor! I will now be ending my interactions with this silly store on a high note lol

Chrynos1989

I assume that other than cravan, these will add to normal support tokens after endgame is over, right? Just don’t do this ‚only one chance’ stuff, that’s rubbishy...

Richyyy

Chrynos1989 said:

I assume that other than cravan, these will add to normal support tokens after endgame is over, right? Just don’t do this ‚only one chance’ stuff, that’s rubbishy...

They haven't bothered to change the available supports in the normal store since they stopped running the weekly support event, so I wouldn't hold your breath on them adding the new ones in.

I decided the 250HP daily deal was just about justifiable, especially considering how much disposable HP I usually have lying around. Got a 2* Sanctorum, which is fine. If PvE wasn't always so dependent on speed, Strange with that support plus Kitty would be potentially really strong defensively - immediate protect tiles for Kitty to buff. The 10/40 packs seem wildly overpriced, as usual. At least improve the odds for people who might be willing to spend on those.

BoyWonder1914

I'm more upset that it costs 250 HP a pop, and there's still Lv. 1 supports in there. If I'm dropping that much HP, I better not be getting anything less than a Lv. 3. Otherwise I'm just trading HP for RIso basically. 

tiomono

I bought a 10 pack. 

3* web shooters was my highest star. A 2* arc reactor, 1* widow batons and sanctum sanctorum.

Everything else was dupes. So 3 of the 4 new supports and an upgrade on a 2* support. I'm happy with my results.

Edit: just went back for a daily deal and got a 2* widow baton.

Phumade

I like that this concept relies on using hp to buy “chances”.  Earning hp is a much more predictable resource.  A daily buy of 250hp is reasonable, and I wouldn’t be surprised if most advanced rosters could buy 2 or 3 pulls a week.  Especially compared to the old method of waiting for h4h offers to spend hp.

with that said the drop rates are awful, I was lucky to have sparehp sobought the 40x.  Net result was 2* ver of the new supports and 80k riso.  Not an awful trade when you consider impost hp and done with slots.  But I would have expected a 40x to drop more 3*.

kennn712

I managed to snag the 5* BW Baton with a 10-pack I bought (plus daily deal) so I got VERY lucky. In those 11 pulls I think I also got about 3 Arc Reactors

The batons are PERFECT for 5* DD for PvE

ZootSax

I got a ten pack which got me a 3* Arc Reactor, 2* Storm Bringer and Strange’s NYC Sanctum and seven 1*’s, which did include the BW batons, but was mostly Red Iso.  All in all, not a bad draw for me.   The Sanctum doesn’t appear anywhere close to as good as Wong, but 3* Thor can take advantage of Stormbringer’s perk and my 5/1/2 Mk XLVI Iron Man is playable enough to justify the Arc Reactor.  I gave BWIW the batons for now, but I didn’t look at them too closely.

Daredevil217

Got a dupe 1* Hulkling. 

AlexR

Thought I'd give a pull a shot, since I don't even have half of the supports in there. Got a dupe 1* Quinjet. Oh well. Gonna just save my HP, the drop rates for anything half-way worthwhile are just too low to bother with.

bluewolf

I was curious and so I took a look at how much riso you can get in a week of play (progression only, not worrying about the placement riso which is usually far less anyway).

If you hit progression in 2 PVE and 3 PVP events (and all the node riso) you'd get:

SCL 9
18650 per PVE (x2 is 37300)
11550 per PVP (x3 is 34650)
12250 for 7 days of nodes
Total of 84,200 riso

SCL 8
14725 per PVE (x2 is 29450)
8750 per PVP (x3 is 26250)
12250 for 7 days of nodes
Total of 67,950 riso

This isn't a criticism of anyone, but I wanted to know.

The dupe riso rate is really quite low, and if you recall was dropped when Support Circuit was introduced, presumably because their statistics showed that the playerbase as a whole was going to be getting more Supports than before (mostly dupes) and they wanted to control the amount of riso we would get as a result.

Of course, Support Circuit and the therefore assumed increased rate of Support acquisition is on indefinite hiatus.  The recent interview revealed that they do not have a definitive plan of action yet, so it might be several months before we see it come back.