Should 3.3 Be Delayed?

Brigby

BigSwifty said:

YES.

A timer would literally ruin the game. Taking time to examine the board, survery your hand, consider your options and so on are 100% necessary for me to enjoy playing this game. There are other, better solutions to the loop issue.

Just to clarify, the timer only starts counting down after the player has made a gem match. If the player is just examining the board, reviewing their hand, and considering their options, then the timer will not begin. 

Alanako

BigSwifty said:

YES.

A timer would literally ruin the game. Taking time to examine the board, survery your hand, consider your options and so on are 100% necessary for me to enjoy playing this game. There are other, better solutions to the loop issue.

 Since the timer start after you match the gems, you have all the time you want to do that

ZW2007-

Yes

My vote was going to be 'No' so that we could get the new set and see how the 18 sec timer works. Now that I saw the new set, they can kindly keep it.

Brakkis

Yes

Brigby said:

BigSwifty said:

YES.

A timer would literally ruin the game. Taking time to examine the board, survery your hand, consider your options and so on are 100% necessary for me to enjoy playing this game. There are other, better solutions to the loop issue.

Just to clarify, the timer only starts counting down after the player has made a gem match. If the player is just examining the board, reviewing their hand, and considering their options, then the timer will not begin. 

Then it will continue to count down as:

- Gems are converted
- Mana trails are shown
- Creatures are reinforced 1 by 1
- Loyalty trails are shown
- Cards are drawn
- Cards drawn gain mana
- Creatures entering the field trigger effects
- Supports entering the field trigger effects
- and more!

You know, all the superfluous stuff we don't want to see that isn't disabled by 'Card Visualization - Off' so it doesn't count as Card Visualization so it doesn't temporarily disable the turn timer.

Kyphonis

Yes

I only voted yes if it needs a bit of time to address the timer.

However, upon re-examination of some arguments with letting it drop and then removing the timer afterwards or extending its time limit up front seems like a good idea. 

Those who who are in support of the timer please keep in mind that the timer shuts down the use of some walkers just due to how their abilities interact with animation triggers during game play after making a swap. 

Dologan

No

Voted no, so I can watch the trainwreck the timer is going to be 
Then I'll probably take a holiday from the game until they fix it, or indefinitely

DragonSorcerer

Yes

Make it a personalized setting, 18 to 999 seconds

FindingHeart8

Yes

I'd like a refund on the money I spent pursuing cards that are now essentially worthless with the 18 second timer.

Was excited about spending more money on this upcoming set...but I think I'm just going to treat myself to a nice dinner instead.

TomB

Yes

I vote yes if they're going to use the time to fix timer issue, but if not then w/e...

IM_CARLOS

Yes

Maybe I should open a poll how many mulitude-soldier will enter game with H2 + loyality support+POD. 12 because it's one action and that's the turn or less.

First they give us all the great card (combinations) and then they cut it into pieces. 

Maybe it work out well, but the counter solution (to not really an issue) is just the two-lefthanded-mans choice. Nearly the same like with player lvl.: just make a cut here it will be okay... 

wereotter

No

IM_CARLOS said:

Maybe I should open a poll how many mulitude-soldier will enter game with H2 + loyality support+POD. 12 because it's one action and that's the turn or less.

First they give us all the great card (combinations) and then they cut it into pieces. 

Maybe it work out well, but the counter solution (to not really an issue) is just the two-lefthanded-mans choice. Nearly the same like with player lvl.: just make a cut here it will be okay... 

If I'm honest.... I would LOVE to not have to face another March of Discovery deck.... not because it's hard to beat, but because it wastes so much of my time. I don't even play the two together because of how much time it wastes, especially in Hutatli decks.

Though they also said several things won't count against the timer, so every token animating to enter play is once specifically mentioned will not count. So the 18 seconds won't necessarily stop the two from continuing to work together.

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IM_CARLOS

Yes

wereotter said:

IM_CARLOS said:

Maybe I should open a poll how many mulitude-soldier will enter game with H2 + loyality support+POD. 12 because it's one action and that's the turn or less.

First they give us all the great card (combinations) and then they cut it into pieces. 

Maybe it work out well, but the counter solution (to not really an issue) is just the two-lefthanded-mans choice. Nearly the same like with player lvl.: just make a cut here it will be okay... 

If I'm honest.... I would LOVE to not have to face another March of Discovery deck.... not because it's hard to beat, but because it wastes so much of my time. I don't even play the two together because of how much time it wastes, especially in Hutatli decks.

Though they also said several things won't count against the timer, so every token animating to enter play is once specifically mentioned will not count. So the 18 seconds won't necessarily stop the two from continuing to work together.

Well if the animation off button would shut down animation for gem changing, loyality gain and token enter such decks would be an option. Maybe the should fix this option first before breaking the game with a counter. 

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Dropspot

No

I need to change my vote. After the video it's clear 3.3 should be delayed

Froggy

No

I need to change the poll.

And then I need to change my vote.

Poll needs to include: If they don’t fix the pretentious loop “fix”: Not.Another.Dime.

And my vote would be a yes to that.

Amadeus

I Don’t Care

I'm really indifferent on this issue I'm sure it will be fine and just might balance out the game for everyone or it will be the end of the world.  either way i will still log in every morning and do my thing.

Brigby

(Please excuse the copy-pasta. Just trying to quickly spread the word out to everyone!)

Thank you all for the insightful and constructive feedback. I just spoke with the team this morning, and they will be changing the 18 seconds per phase to 90 seconds. 

This change will be a transitional adjustment, as the team will continue to monitor and work towards finding the right balance between solving infinite loop issues and maintaining player play styles following the 3.3 update.

Allatar

No

@Brigby thanks for the reply, let's hope this will be enough to ease everyone here !