Emmara, Soul of the Accord activated gems [As Designed]

wereotter
wereotter Posts: 2,070 Chairperson of the Boards
edited December 2018 in MtGPQ Bugs & Technical Issues
When a player makes a three-gem match where two of the gems are activated for Emmara, she gives you the three soldiers then disables before giving you the other three from the activated gem rather than giving you all six before disabling herself.

//Edited Title - Tombstone

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  • Tombstone
    Tombstone ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 1,208 Chairperson of the Boards
    @wereotter This is as designed. Disabled creatures are unable to trigger their effects. In this case, after triggering the effect of summoning 3 tokens, Emmara, Soul of the Accord becomes immediately disabled and is unable to create more tokens. Due to this, matching multiple of her activated gems will not create more than 3 tokens as she will be disabled immediately after the first 3 tokens are created. 
  • wereotter
    wereotter Posts: 2,070 Chairperson of the Boards
    Even if two activated gems are activated in the same three gems, no cascade involved? I could understand on a later match with a cascade or even if a match 4 hit a second gem by destroying the entire column/row, but it would seem to me that both effects would be queued in to happen if you activate them both at the same time.
  • Enygma6
    Enygma6 Posts: 266 Mover and Shaker
    The two gem activations are stacked, not combined.  The conclusion of the first gem activation is to disable her, immediately nullifying any further action that she would cause.
  • wereotter
    wereotter Posts: 2,070 Chairperson of the Boards
    Enygma6 said:
    The two gem activations are stacked, not combined.  The conclusion of the first gem activation is to disable her, immediately nullifying any further action that she would cause.
    Maybe this is just my paper magic background speaking here, but even if that's the case, both abilities would be "on the stack" as it were and both would resolve since both were triggered before she disables. Hence my confusion thinking this was a bug.
  • Mburn7
    Mburn7 Posts: 3,427 Chairperson of the Boards
    wereotter said:
    Enygma6 said:
    The two gem activations are stacked, not combined.  The conclusion of the first gem activation is to disable her, immediately nullifying any further action that she would cause.
    Maybe this is just my paper magic background speaking here, but even if that's the case, both abilities would be "on the stack" as it were and both would resolve since both were triggered before she disables. Hence my confusion thinking this was a bug.
    Yeah, that's the paper player in you talking.  The "Stack" doesn't really exist in PQ.  At least not in a coherent or structured way.
  • Gun Bunny
    Gun Bunny Posts: 233 Tile Toppler
    wereotter said:
    Enygma6 said:
    The two gem activations are stacked, not combined.  The conclusion of the first gem activation is to disable her, immediately nullifying any further action that she would cause.
    Maybe this is just my paper magic background speaking here, but even if that's the case, both abilities would be "on the stack" as it were and both would resolve since both were triggered before she disables. Hence my confusion thinking this was a bug.
    Think of it this way:

    Multiple activated gems in PQ don't reflect being able to activate multiple times, but rather how cheap and easily they can be activated. This is best seen in AKH/HOU, where insanely high (paper) eternalize costs (4BB for Dreamstealer, for instance) are represented by a single activated gem, whereas cheap costs (W for Sacred Cat) are represented by four activated gems.

    Also, paper Emmara generates tokens when she's tapped, and only once per instance of her tapping. A relatively easy activation, but one that's not easily repeatable in the same turn.
  • Furks
    Furks Posts: 149 Tile Toppler
    @Gun Bunny except that for all other cards that activate multiple gems, matching both does give you multiple activations
  • fiirst
    fiirst Posts: 438 Mover and Shaker
    Mburn7 said:
    wereotter said:
    Enygma6 said:
    The two gem activations are stacked, not combined.  The conclusion of the first gem activation is to disable her, immediately nullifying any further action that she would cause.
    Maybe this is just my paper magic background speaking here, but even if that's the case, both abilities would be "on the stack" as it were and both would resolve since both were triggered before she disables. Hence my confusion thinking this was a bug.
    Yeah, that's the paper player in you talking.  The "Stack" doesn't really exist in PQ.  At least not in a coherent or structured way.
    Stack is exist. When 1 shield Nyx matched with conversion gems, Nyx return itself into play.
    if no stack in PQ, Nyx should not be returned.

    @Tombstone Emmara should create more than 3 tokens when we activate more than 1 activation gems to maintain consistensy.

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