How accurate is the 300 latest pulls nowdays?

talleman
talleman Posts: 445 Mover and Shaker
edited December 2018 in MPQ General Discussion
Im closing up on 300 latest pulls to hopefully champ all 3 latest 5*.

1. Should i save more LT/CP to be sure that i get all champed?

2. Should i wait for Loki to leave?

Edit: im in 4* to 5* transition with no champed 5*.

Thanx in advance.

Comments

  • DeNappa
    DeNappa Posts: 1,390 Chairperson of the Boards
    Personally, I'd wait until the next 5* is announced. Loki has its uses, but he's not that great. This post by Grimskald pretty much sums up my doubts about him.
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    It doesn't hurt to save more.

    The next release on 13th December should be a 5*? I'll wait to see if she is better than Loki.

  • Vins2
    Vins2 Posts: 183 Tile Toppler
    300 was the old number with cover swaps and a high confidence rate.  The new calculation is in the theories and statistics board.
  • jamesh
    jamesh Posts: 1,600 Chairperson of the Boards
    I suspect you'd need a fair bit more to be confident of covering all three.
    With a 15% chance of pulling a 5* cover, you'd expect to get 45 5* covers out of the 300 tokens.  That's only six covers of headroom over the 39 required to cover the three characters.
    Under the old customer service cover swap system, if you pulled any 13 covers for a character you could perform swaps to get a complete character.  The extra pulls were to cover the case where you pull a cover for completed character A while characters B and C remain incomplete, which wasn't covered by the swap policy.
    Under the current saved cover system, 13 random covers represents a 30% of fully covering a character.  If you make use of the three-for-one exchange, 19 covers gives you a 100% assurance of covering the character.  Although 16 gives 92% assurance which might be enough for you.
    So you probably want to add 60 to 120 more latest legends tokens to get similar assurance to the old estimates.
  • talleman
    talleman Posts: 445 Mover and Shaker
    Thanx for the input everyone.
  • elko90
    elko90 Posts: 68 Match Maker
    From my last pull I needed 400 pulls to get the three 5* covered, because i got 7 extra red covers for lcap and 5 for JJ my aim was okoye she exactly 450 
  • jredd
    jredd Posts: 1,387 Chairperson of the Boards
    of the three 5* in right now, i've pulled 282 times. gotten kp to 452. loki to 451 (traded in 6 for 2 to get him covered) and cable is 5/3/3 with 5 saved covers. so the 300 rule of thumb is still accurate. but with some rng luck you can cover them all with less pulls.
  • Phumade
    Phumade Posts: 2,495 Chairperson of the Boards
    talleman said:
    Im closing up on 300 latest pulls to hopefully champ all 3 latest 5*.

    1. Should i save more LT/CP to be sure that i get all champed?

    2. Should i wait for Loki to leave?

    Edit: im in 4* to 5* transition with no champed 5*.

    Thanx in advance.
    Quick reminder of a few important points.

    1.  Cover saves and no swaps mean. You need more pulls to reliably get to champ status.  Even though it takes more pulls to get to champ status,  you will get all your saved covers back.

    2.  When you pull your covers makes a difference.  300 pulls  to get kitty to champ from zero on his last day in LL isn’t a lock.  Just look at the previous posts results on getting cable.  That said if you know you have 2/3 weeks of time, then 300 pulls is great.

    loki is decent his purple works well and he has really good survivability based on his black.  If resurrected Loki 2 times I the same match so he has usurps.

    hes a 5* that I would still champ and use him in cannon fodder situations.  But even if he had comparable levels to Thor okoye, he wouldn’t be as good as the best 5*
  • bbigler
    bbigler Posts: 2,111 Chairperson of the Boards
    It's best to assume uneven cover distribution, which is like this:

    300 Pulls = 45 x 5* covers => 13 + 15 + 17 cover distribution: the 13 cover 5* distributed 3/4/6

    So, 300 pulls most likely is not enough.  350 pulls is a safer bet.  It's all probabilities, so the more pulls you have, the better your chances.  I would wait until the next 5* is announced and then decide when to pull. 

    350 Pulls = 52 x 5* covers => 15 + 17 + 20 cover distribution: the 15 cover 5* distributed 4/5/6

  • Alphateam
    Alphateam Posts: 31 Just Dropped In
    I'm currently at 331 pulls. I'm waiting for the next 5*. 
  • Hadronic
    Hadronic Posts: 338 Mover and Shaker
    Pulls needed to finish All Characters:
    365.080 +/- 82.736
    Expected number of bonus covers:
    2.734 +/- 1.590
    Pulls needed for 95% guarantee to finish:
    514.000
  • turul
    turul Posts: 1,622 Chairperson of the Boards
    banking on

    200 pulls or under: 0.57%
    210 pulls or under: 1.10%
    220 pulls or under: 1.94%
    230 pulls or under: 3.27%
    240 pulls or under: 5.22%
    250 pulls or under: 8.52%
    260 pulls or under: 12.21%
    270 pulls or under: 16.82%
    280 pulls or under: 22.56%
    290 pulls or under: 28.67%
    300 pulls or under: 35.09%
    310 pulls or under: 42.22%
    320 pulls or under: 49.28%
    330 pulls or under: 55.52%
    340 pulls or under: 62.07%
    350 pulls or under: 67.91%
    360 pulls or under: 73.14%
    370 pulls or under: 78.29%
    380 pulls or under: 82.13%
    390 pulls or under: 85.65%
    400 pulls or under: 88.59%
    410 pulls or under: 90.98%
    420 pulls or under: 93.27%

    ~~~~~~~

    banking off


    200 pulls or under: 0.30%
    210 pulls or under: 0.72%
    220 pulls or under: 1.39%
    230 pulls or under: 2.21%
    240 pulls or under: 3.66%
    250 pulls or under: 5.47%
    260 pulls or under: 8.04%
    270 pulls or under: 11.16%
    280 pulls or under: 14.98%
    290 pulls or under: 19.28%
    300 pulls or under: 24.05%
    310 pulls or under: 28.97%
    320 pulls or under: 34.74%
    330 pulls or under: 40.18%
    340 pulls or under: 45.71%
    350 pulls or under: 50.95%
    360 pulls or under: 56.16%
    370 pulls or under: 61.15%
    380 pulls or under: 65.67%
    390 pulls or under: 69.68%
    400 pulls or under: 73.46%
    410 pulls or under: 76.72%
    420 pulls or under: 79.71%
    430 pulls or under: 82.24%
    440 pulls or under: 84.40%
    450 pulls or under: 86.45%
    460 pulls or under: 88.27%
    470 pulls or under: 90.06%
    480 pulls or under: 91.36%
    490 pulls or under: 92.75%
    500 pulls or under: 93.79%