Hexproof preventing untargeted removal post 2.9 [Fixed in 3.0]

Brakkis
Brakkis Posts: 777 Critical Contributor
edited March 2019 in MtGPQ Bugs & Technical Issues
As the title states, any untargeted removal; whether it be bounce, exile, or destroy, will no longer cast if the opponent controls creatures that were given Hexproof following the update to 2.9

Untargeted damage spells will still cast and deal their requisite damage however.

Tested cards effected
Doomfall
Isolate
River's Rebuke
Perilous Voyage
Plague Wind
The Eldest Reborn
Vona's Hunger

If the creature starts with Hexproof there doesn't seem to be any issue. But if the creature gained Hexproof through some other means than having it as an Evergreen (i.e Sphinx of the Final Words ability, Rattlechains giving spirits Hexproof, etc.), it immediately shuts down the casting of these cards.

//Edited Title - Brigby

Comments

  • Gun Bunny
    Gun Bunny Posts: 233 Tile Toppler
    Brakkis said:

    If the creature starts with Hexproof there doesn't seem to be any issue. But if the creature gained Hexproof through some other means than having it as an Evergreen (i.e Sphinx of the Final Words ability, Rattlechains giving spirits Hexproof, etc.), it immediately shuts down the casting of these cards.
    I'm actually running into the problem with natural hexproof creatures as well, both doomfall and isolate failed to cast with a Gaea's Revenge in the first creature slot.
  • Hesturk
    Hesturk Posts: 73 Match Maker
    I got the same bug for a few turn. However it somehow resolved itself. It might have been after I isolated another creature. 
  • rafalele
    rafalele Posts: 876 Critical Contributor
    Already happened to me with River's Rebuke in Oath of the Gatewach node where IA uses the first ability to make hexproof to it's creatures.
  • Skiglass6
    Skiglass6 Posts: 149 Tile Toppler
    Was coming here to post that Wrath of God won’t trigger with just hexproof creatures on the board. 
  • Gunmix25
    Gunmix25 Posts: 1,442 Chairperson of the Boards
    If a creature has hexproof.... it is almost untouchable and need berserk to take it out. 
  • Mburn7
    Mburn7 Posts: 3,427 Chairperson of the Boards
    Wow that is an awful bug, since the ENTIRE POINT of untargeted removal is to circumvent hexproof.
  • Laeuftbeidir
    Laeuftbeidir Posts: 1,841 Chairperson of the Boards
    I can't even cast an untargeted buff on my own Gaes revenge
  • Tombstone
    Tombstone ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 1,208 Chairperson of the Boards
    Thanks for pointing this out everyone. I'll pass this up to the team for investigation, and add this to the bug list.  
  • stikxs
    stikxs Posts: 534 Critical Contributor
    This also blocks chandra's ignition as well.
  • Enygma6
    Enygma6 Posts: 266 Mover and Shaker
    Imaginary Threats was unable to cast against a Striped Riverwinder (native Hexproof)
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0 Just Dropped In
    edited October 2018
    This is inconsistent. 

    Oath of gatewatch part 2 sphinx if final word encounter is different from story mode heroic encounter nissa battle 1 (starts with gaea)

    Plague wind works in events, heroic story nissa, and oath

    Perilous voyage works for Oath of gatewatch but not events or heroic story nissa

    Etc etc

    Nontargetted mass removal can be cast if theres a nonhexproof creature on the board but when only 1 or more hexproof creatures are on the board, its an issue. 
  • GregDreher
    GregDreher Posts: 100 Tile Toppler
    My experience with this bug is that if all of the creatures have hexproof, the spell won't cast.  But if one creature doesn't, then the spell will cast, and can then affect the creature with hexproof.

    Example: I have Perilous Voyage, opponent has Gaea's Revenge.  Perilous Voyage won't be cast.  Then opponent casts Llanowar Elves, which goes in the second slot.  Perilous Voyage will now be cast, returning Gaea's Revenge to opponent's hand.
  • stikxs
    stikxs Posts: 534 Critical Contributor
    GregDreher said:
    My experience with this bug is that if all of the creatures have hexproof, the spell won't cast.  But if one creature doesn't, then the spell will cast, and can then affect the creature with hexproof.

    Example: I have Perilous Voyage, opponent has Gaea's Revenge.  Perilous Voyage won't be cast.  Then opponent casts Llanowar Elves, which goes in the second slot.  Perilous Voyage will now be cast, returning Gaea's Revenge to opponent's hand.
    To expand on that, I noticed I could not cast PV because Greg had a single hexproof creature, however once I had a non-hexproof creature of my own PV would now cast despite all of Greg's creatures being hexproof (1 creature).
  • Tilwin90
    Tilwin90 Posts: 662 Critical Contributor
    Ah I just noticed this yesterday specifically against the first challenge in the DOM event (the one with the UR Brothers). I assumed that it was the special gem that granted hexproof that was causing this problem. Apparently it nullified my River's Rebuke as long as the opponent didn't have any supports on the board.

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