More Supports triggering twice [Fixed in 2.9]

Mburn7
Mburn7 Posts: 3,427 Chairperson of the Boards
edited November 2018 in MtGPQ Bugs & Technical Issues
Cracked out my old Ally Gideon deck for Oath, and found out that red supports aren't the only ones with funky triggers.
The white retreat (Retreat to Emeria I think) and Oath of Gideon also sometimes trigger multiple times, and in a weird way.

Situation:

Play Retreat
Play Oath of Gideon
Next turn, Match 5 white gems (an L in this case, if it matters)
Retreat triggers: I get one 1/1 Kor Ally token and my creatures get +1/+1
Oath triggers:  I get four 1/1 Kor Alliy tokens
I gain mana for the match
Retreat triggers:  I get one 1/1 Kor Ally token and my creatures get +1/+1
Oath triggers:  I get four 1/1 Kor Ally tokens
I cast cards


The same sequence triggered on match 4-s as well, although not every time.  It looked like the extra triggers happen when I make other matches in the same match as the landfall, even if they were just match 3-s (note, I do not mean cascaded match 4 or 5's, if I get a cascade I get additional triggers since this all happens before a cascade starts)

//Edited Title -Brigby

Comments

  • bumstuff
    bumstuff Posts: 20 Just Dropped In
    It happens any time something is looking for a match of gems and the match includes a support gem. For every support gem included in the match, the ability triggers an extra time.

    One support gem: triggers twice
    Two support gems: triggers three times
    Three support gems: triggers four times

    Etc.

    If you really want some fun, match 3 support gems together with an ability looking for that kind of match. Storm the Vault and Part the Waterveil can have you waiting days for your Islands to stop getting spawned, for example.
  • Mburn7
    Mburn7 Posts: 3,427 Chairperson of the Boards
    bumstuff said:
    It happens any time something is looking for a match of gems and the match includes a support gem. For every support gem included in the match, the ability triggers an extra time.

    One support gem: triggers twice
    Two support gems: triggers three times
    Three support gems: triggers four times

    Etc.

    If you really want some fun, match 3 support gems together with an ability looking for that kind of match. Storm the Vault and Part the Waterveil can have you waiting days for your Islands to stop getting spawned, for example.
    Huh, didn't think of that.  I wonder if that is also why Treasures now give their mana for each time they are reinforced when matched
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0 Just Dropped In
    I recently noticed this reinforced treasure issue triggering more than once. 
  • Laeuftbeidir
    Laeuftbeidir Posts: 1,841 Chairperson of the Boards
    I've got several Screenshots when three of my treasures all went on black gems, got reinforced two times and lined up. That took a while to resolve!
  • Matthew
    Matthew Posts: 605 Critical Contributor
    Choke is also doing this. I noticed it while working on Mastery points.
  • techmarine5
    techmarine5 Posts: 57 Match Maker
    Mburn7 said:
    bumstuff said:
    It happens any time something is looking for a match of gems and the match includes a support gem. For every support gem included in the match, the ability triggers an extra time.

    One support gem: triggers twice
    Two support gems: triggers three times
    Three support gems: triggers four times

    Etc.

    If you really want some fun, match 3 support gems together with an ability looking for that kind of match. Storm the Vault and Part the Waterveil can have you waiting days for your Islands to stop getting spawned, for example.
    Huh, didn't think of that.  I wonder if that is also why Treasures now give their mana for each time they are reinforced when matched
    Treasures always gave Mana every time they were matched. It could be that we are just now seeing the ramifications of that change from just can't be rienforced.
  • Mburn7
    Mburn7 Posts: 3,427 Chairperson of the Boards
    techmarine5 said:
    Mburn7 said:
    bumstuff said:
    It happens any time something is looking for a match of gems and the match includes a support gem. For every support gem included in the match, the ability triggers an extra time.

    One support gem: triggers twice
    Two support gems: triggers three times
    Three support gems: triggers four times

    Etc.

    If you really want some fun, match 3 support gems together with an ability looking for that kind of match. Storm the Vault and Part the Waterveil can have you waiting days for your Islands to stop getting spawned, for example.
    Huh, didn't think of that.  I wonder if that is also why Treasures now give their mana for each time they are reinforced when matched
    Treasures always gave Mana every time they were matched. It could be that we are just now seeing the ramifications of that change from just can't be rienforced.
    I think you misunderstood me.  Treasures should only give 2 or 3 mana per match.  Instead, they now give 2 or 3 mana per reinforcement per match.  So if I have a treasure reinforced 5 times, I get 15 mana from one match.  That is obviously a bug
  • techmarine5
    techmarine5 Posts: 57 Match Maker
    I agree. Thank you for the clarification.
  • Tremayne
    Tremayne Posts: 1,722 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited September 2018
    I think that Koth’s strength of the mountain ability suffers from this.
    I had a match earlier today where my creatures grew big very fast.
    I couldn’t figure out why SotM triggered so often. Will see if I can test it some more.

    update - seems consistent with the theory that supports in the match make SotM trigger multiple times. This could make Koth very strong until fixed.

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