We need MTGPQ Modern

FindingHeart8

With a new batch of great HoU cards added to the heap of legacy mythics we'll never use again, I think it would be a great opportunity to consider Events that are only available to certain sets of mtgpq.

Currently we have standard and legacy.  In Standard you're going to use your newest and best current cards to win, in Legacy you're going to use your most powerful cards ever obtained to win, and there's a ton of decent to great cards you own that could be fun to play again...but you'll never touch again because they aren't competitive enough to win in the all-card-encompassing legacy format.

A massive legacy nerf-purge isn't the answer to making old cards fun again, we just need events that promote their usefulness.

This would also make obsolete planeswalkers useful again (like the Kaladesh planeswalkers that needed charge counters to function, or Jace2 and his need for clues).

note: Yeah I know it's not exactly Modern, but that's the closest umbrella format in MTG I could think of that caters to this style of playing.

bk1234

I've always said we should have some events that are played in the standard in which they are created. 

Legacy HOD with Origins, KLD, AER, AKH and HOD. 

Legacy Terrors with everything up to SOI / EMN. 

Of course these would need to be individual events, but they could be really, really awesome.

Mburn7

I also think this would be a great idea.  I would love to try the original Terrors with the original cards used in it.  That would be a ton of fun.

Szamsziel

Issue is that New players starting from particular point won't be able to participate. Idea is fine, but id suggest to used standard+cards from x set. Example amk event with amk rewards - amk + standard

Mburn7

Szamsziel said:

Issue is that New players starting from particular point won't be able to participate. Idea is fine, but id suggest to used standard+cards from x set. Example amk event with amk rewards - amk + standard

Its the same issue we've discussed here in regards to Terrors and Emrakul's Corruption events with their block-specific creature type objectives.  New players will definitely be at a disadvantage, but (as long as the event gives block-specific rewards as they do now) they will be able to catch up relatively quickly.

Also (and I may sound like an ****), but why should the existence of new players prevent Oktagon from implementing a cool and fun idea like this?  Sure, it'll suck for them the first few times around, but after that they'll get enough cards from the required sets to compete.  Also, it'll finally give some incentive to craft legacy cards or buy legacy packs, which are things available to everyone.

Rhasget

If they could add more events in all, theres no reason to not cater to the longtime players who have large collections.
All current events are more or less suited for new players anyway so theres still plenty for them to do.

If I was in charge I would even announce it some time beforehand and put an offer for cheaper legacy boosters and/or crafting leading up to an event. That would make it possible for new(ish) players to get a shot at catching up ok some of the old stuf.

FindingHeart8

Szamsziel said:

Issue is that New players starting from particular point won't be able to participate. Idea is fine, but id suggest to used standard+cards from x set. Example amk event with amk rewards - amk + standard

I'd go more for Origins than Standard.  Otherwise a lot of players with powerful standard decks will just plow through and there would be no motivation to try to acquire the old cards.

I think these specific block events (I'll just reference as Modern in the future) should have those packs available in the Vault for purchase.  Could also bring in some extra revenue for Octagon, as there would be a reason to buy old packs now and not just get them through orbs.

DumasAG

Mburn7 said:

Szamsziel said:

Issue is that New players starting from particular point won't be able to participate. Idea is fine, but id suggest to used standard+cards from x set. Example amk event with amk rewards - amk + standard

Its the same issue we've discussed here in regards to Terrors and Emrakul's Corruption events with their block-specific creature type objectives.  New players will definitely be at a disadvantage, but (as long as the event gives block-specific rewards as they do now) they will be able to catch up relatively quickly.

Also (and I may sound like an tinykitty), but why should the existence of new players prevent Oktagon from implementing a cool and fun idea like this?  Sure, it'll suck for them the first few times around, but after that they'll get enough cards from the required sets to compete.  Also, it'll finally give some incentive to craft legacy cards or buy legacy packs, which are things available to everyone.

Incentive to craft legacy cards? Why, we can use legacy cards every day in fun and interesting ways! You need look no further than the training gro... oh... right...

Laeuftbeidir

I like the idea.

Plus, there's always origins as an additional option!

Wolfteeth

Great idea and totally agree!  I even wish they would still throw in some rares and mythics here and there in the daily packs from older series

bumstuff

We need an option for a legacy daily pack. You get to pick -- standard only or all cards. (Or maybe even standard only, legacy only, or all cards?)

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Enygma6

I like the Block Specific event idea.  
Maybe not totally restrict to Origins + older set pairings, but at least make that one of the Objectives for the nodes.
Terror in the Shadows: Use only Origins, SOI, and EMN gets you the secondary objective ribbons.  Players are free to use any other cards to build their deck if they want to play, but to earn the top rewards you have to hit all the objectives.  
  
Sure beats the idea of playing RotGP without using any AKH or HOU cards, in my opinion.

madwren

Mburn7 said:

Szamsziel said:

Issue is that New players starting from particular point won't be able to participate. Idea is fine, but id suggest to used standard+cards from x set. Example amk event with amk rewards - amk + standard

Its the same issue we've discussed here in regards to Terrors and Emrakul's Corruption events with their block-specific creature type objectives.  New players will definitely be at a disadvantage, but (as long as the event gives block-specific rewards as they do now) they will be able to catch up relatively quickly.

Also (and I may sound like an tinykitty), but why should the existence of new players prevent Oktagon from implementing a cool and fun idea like this?  Sure, it'll suck for them the first few times around, but after that they'll get enough cards from the required sets to compete.  Also, it'll finally give some incentive to craft legacy cards or buy legacy packs, which are things available to everyone.

I agree.  It isn't necessary for a new player to play in every event.  What matters is that there are accessible avenues for them to build their collection, level their planeswalkers, and then participate in those events after a reasonable amount of investment. It's ok to have content for both veterans and rookies.

Anytime you start a new game, there will be portions of it that are unavailable to you. What matters is how the game facilitates new players moving from Point A to Point B.

bk1234

madwren said:

Mburn7 said:

Szamsziel said:

Issue is that New players starting from particular point won't be able to participate. Idea is fine, but id suggest to used standard+cards from x set. Example amk event with amk rewards - amk + standard

Its the same issue we've discussed here in regards to Terrors and Emrakul's Corruption events with their block-specific creature type objectives.  New players will definitely be at a disadvantage, but (as long as the event gives block-specific rewards as they do now) they will be able to catch up relatively quickly.

Also (and I may sound like an tinykitty), but why should the existence of new players prevent Oktagon from implementing a cool and fun idea like this?  Sure, it'll suck for them the first few times around, but after that they'll get enough cards from the required sets to compete.  Also, it'll finally give some incentive to craft legacy cards or buy legacy packs, which are things available to everyone.

I agree.  It isn't necessary for a new player to play in every event.  What matters is that there are accessible avenues for them to build their collection, level their planeswalkers, and then participate in those events after a reasonable amount of investment. It's ok to have content for both veterans and rookies.

Anytime you start a new game, there will be portions of it that are unavailable to you. What matters is how the game facilitates new players moving from Point A to Point B.

Couldn’t agree more. Also, there isn’t a lot of fresh content aimed at vets. 

The game has become very bottom heavy and it would be nice to have some things aimed at top tier players. 

GrizzoMtGPQ

New players need not be at a disadvantage. Make better brackets! Put players together by card counts. That’s it. If you have 5-10 mythic and 10-15 rares of EMN you go into this bracket. Let the bracket sizes be relatively small perhaps 250 or so. Scale rewards accordingly. Done.

Enygma6

Revamp the tier system to recalculate Mastery on a per-block basis for block-restricted events? Count only Origins + the Main/Sub-set card mastery to determine an appropriate tier.  At least until the tier system eventually gets it's long overdue overhaul.  

That way even if I have a bunch of chards from BFZ/OGW, but never used them, I get placed into a lower tier than if say an XLN/RIX block event where I have a ton of mastered Mythics?  
And someone with a more modest, but much more used BFZ collection (who is arguably better acquainted with the tactics for that set) would go to a higher tier for better rewards?  
  
Would definitely shake up the rankings on the leaderboards.  At least for us mere mortals who haven't come close to the current 2500/color cap.