Riddleform

Rigsby
Rigsby Posts: 41 Just Dropped In
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I'm getting awfully bored of playing with Riddleform now. Can we have either
  1. A different objective on Across Ixalan node 1, or
  2. Another card which is worth using for it,
please?
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  • Mburn7
    Mburn7 Posts: 3,427 Chairperson of the Boards
    You could just not bother with the objectives on Across Ixalan.  I mean, you're guaranteed to get all points with a few matches anyway.  I just treat it as a standard TG and if I get the secondaries its a nice bonus.
  • wereotter
    wereotter Posts: 2,070 Chairperson of the Boards
    Mburn7 said:
    You could just not bother with the objectives on Across Ixalan.  I mean, you're guaranteed to get all points with a few matches anyway.  I just treat it as a standard TG and if I get the secondaries its a nice bonus.
    Same. I never bothered with the “lose 5 or more creatures” objective and just try for the speed one. Sometimes on the black node days, I’ll use Death’s Majesty since she can kill my creatures on demand. 
  • Laeuftbeidir
    Laeuftbeidir Posts: 1,841 Chairperson of the Boards
    I made a Kiora deck without riddleform that can do both.. But I mostly don't even mind
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  • James13
    James13 Posts: 665 Critical Contributor
    I skip most secondaries and tend to clear the event in 4 matches.  Usually 3 node 1, 1 node 2.
  • Mburn7
    Mburn7 Posts: 3,427 Chairperson of the Boards
    Rigsby said:
    Mburn7 said:
    You could just not bother with the objectives on Across Ixalan.  I mean, you're guaranteed to get all points with a few matches anyway.  I just treat it as a standard TG and if I get the secondaries its a nice bonus.
    Don't you find you spend a lot longer playing it?
    Isn't that the point?  I mean, there's nothing else to do.  and this way I get to try out new deck ideas
  • Brakkis
    Brakkis Posts: 777 Critical Contributor
    edited July 2018
    Red, Green, Blue, Black, and All Colors I do 3 rounds in Node 1, 1 on Node 2 and I'm usually at 40 or 45 points.

    White I swap it around; 1 round of Node 1, 3 of Node 2 to yield the same result.

    Too much hassle and not enough reason to go for both objectives of node 1 on any color and um... I've never played Node 3 or 4.

    As for cards that could fulfill a similar role; there's Reclaim for green, Liliana 3's first ability and Fleshbag Marauder in black, Skaab Goliath in blue, and Star of Extinction in red. There are likely more options but those are the first to come to mind.
  • wereotter
    wereotter Posts: 2,070 Chairperson of the Boards
    Ally Gideon is good for lose enough creature objectives too since his first ability kills the tokens
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  • FindingHeart8
    FindingHeart8 Posts: 2,732 Chairperson of the Boards
    Rigsby said:
    So given that everyone here seems to be disagreeing with the initial post, do I take it that you don't want to see any more cards like Riddleform being made which allow you to efficiently lose creatures?

    Do I also take it you feel the same way about cards which help you more efficiently complete 'Kill X creature' objectives, like Turn to Frog, Dowsing Dagger, and......... er........
    funny that you mention that, I usually just go for the "Summon 5 or more critters" on that one and skip the second.  sorry to jump on the bandwagon of disagreement :D 
  • Mburn7
    Mburn7 Posts: 3,427 Chairperson of the Boards
    Rigsby said:
    So given that everyone here seems to be disagreeing with the initial post, do I take it that you don't want to see any more cards like Riddleform being made which allow you to efficiently lose creatures?

    Do I also take it you feel the same way about cards which help you more efficiently complete 'Kill X creature' objectives, like Turn to Frog, Dowsing Dagger, and......... er........
    Oh no, I wouldn't mind more cards that make weird effects that are super niche, I love those.

    I (and others here it seems) are more objecting to how you tied your thread to completing Across Ixalan objectives, which are basically pointless.  Riddleform is a great card in the right deck, and I would love to see more like it.
  • DumasAG
    DumasAG Posts: 719 Critical Contributor
    Disagree with original post on the basis of Riddleform and being bored, because you could just play one of the other nodes if you truly don't want to play with Riddleform. 

    However, I do think there's a lot of room for expansion in the idea of support objectives in Across Ixalan. Play with some new ideas for objectives, have us flex our creative muscles. If it's something that winds up being not a good objective, don't include it in an event. If it's good, DO include it. Have theme weeks where we have to go tribal, or all spells, or all support, or whatever.
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  • DBJones
    DBJones Posts: 803 Critical Contributor
    I wish Kinjalli's Summoner and Varduk (I think) would destroy instead of exiling the creatures they create… Anyway, I would like to see some objective variety in all the events really, but AcrI would be the nicest. I create a bit more variety for myself by playing through to the third node. I got Vance's Blasting Cannons somewhat recently, and I still haven't gotten bored of making Eternalize/Aftermath decks using it. For non-Bolas days, I usually run a token (Legion's Landing and History of Benelia) and Reason Gaea's Revenge deck with Huatli.
  • Mburn7
    Mburn7 Posts: 3,427 Chairperson of the Boards
    DBJones said:
    I wish Kinjalli's Summoner and Varduk (I think) would destroy instead of exiling the creatures they create… 
    I think it is intentional that they do not because of how many things that would combo with.  Also, in paper they are exiled (I believe)
  • DBJones
    DBJones Posts: 803 Critical Contributor
    Looks like they are exiled in paper (Valduk is the correct spelling). So, considering how close Oktagon has been keeping to paper, I don't think there's much chance of getting that change whatever other factors there may be. I can't think of any combos off your own creatures dying that would be that big of a deal though, besides the ones that involve actively killing your own creatures which would still work.
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  • Mburn7
    Mburn7 Posts: 3,427 Chairperson of the Boards
    Rigsby said:
    Mburn7 said:
    DBJones said:
    I wish Kinjalli's Summoner and Varduk (I think) would destroy instead of exiling the creatures they create… 
    I think it is intentional that they do not because of how many things that would combo with.  Also, in paper they are exiled (I believe)
    How would Valduk or Summoner combo with any more things than Riddleform already does? Riddleform is more likely to combo, isn't it, since those cards are limited to one token (stack) a turn?
    It wouldn't.  It would just be a much more powerful version that also interacts with those same things.  Riddleform is a conditional 1/1 token.  Summoner creates a 4/4 every turn, Valduk creates an army of 3/2 every turn (depending on field conditions).  Having them also work with those sacrifice engines would be pretty powerful.  That's all I meant.
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  • Mburn7
    Mburn7 Posts: 3,427 Chairperson of the Boards
    Rigsby said:
    Pretty powerful is good, tho, isn't it? It's just too powerful that's the problem. And judging from the STV thread nobody seems to mind too powerful either.
    Its not about what we mind, its what the devs mind.  From a development point of view you really don't want too powerful.

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