Dreading 3 star dakens release.

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edited May 2014 in MPQ General Discussion
Played against a level 156 version today in the pve.... i am not going to enjoy this character being in the game... I am oh so terribly not going to enjoy this guy... at all...
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  • djpt05
    djpt05 Posts: 178
    Mine's at 236. Great times
  • Unknown
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    Mine was 192, but I didn't really see the problem with him. But having a high-leveled (and buffed) IM40, Patch and Thor is probably obscuring my vision.
  • djpt05
    djpt05 Posts: 178
    Toxicadam wrote:
    Mine was 192, but I didn't really see the problem with him. But having a high-leveled (and buffed) IM40, Patch and Thor is probably obscuring my vision.

    Same boat. I take him out first and then either Ares or (yes sadly) Yelena wipes me out
  • Unknown
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    250. My lazy daken is awesome
  • Phaserhawk
    Phaserhawk Posts: 2,676 Chairperson of the Boards
    He's essentially Patch re worked, that's it, with a worse heal but a better strike tile generator. His blue will probably do similiar damage as Patch's Beserker' Rage but instead of adding strike tiles it will take them away. I bet if you took Patch with Berserker Rage cast, plus attack tile dmg follow up, you would get the same amount of damage as Chemical Reaction dmg plus tile dmg after turn. The only difference is blue costs 5 where Beserker Rage costs 9, however I think the trade off of losing up to 3-4 strike tiles will keep people in check. Remmber it's friendly tiles, so it will removing any strike tiles regardless of who created them.

    When going against him, make sure you have a guy that can use blue AP, keep making blue AP enough to keep Heat active as I think a lot of people are going to go 5/3/5 with him, so try to keep blue below 7 tiles, Throw a Falcon or C.Mags into the mix and you can keep him in check until say Thor Thunderstrikes him to death.
  • Unknown
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    Doom could pose quite a problem for him. Technopathic Strike makes him overdose, Demons fill his potential strike tiles. They should give Doom a third power.
  • Nonce Equitaur 2
    Nonce Equitaur 2 Posts: 2,269 Chairperson of the Boards
    My lazy Daken is level 327.

    13212 health points
    Strike tiles are 131 points
    Chemical reaction damage 1413, and 990 damage per strike tile.

    Level 327 Ares is worse
    Onslaught 772 damage per green tile
    2805 or 5610 group damage for Rampage
    7425 damage for Sunder

    Plus, on any three match, the drop downs are almost always the same color. Ludicrously ridiculous luck, over and over.
  • Unknown
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    Yeah, I'm actually glad that there's going to be a 3* Daken. An over-leveled 1 or 2* character is stronger than an over-leveled 3*, so new Daken should be less dangerous than old Daken (when their levels are equal). I have way more trouble with Juggs and Ares.

    I still don't want to see the inevitable field of Falcon/Daken/Lazy Thor teams in PvP, though. I think that will be horrible.
  • user311
    user311 Posts: 482 Mover and Shaker
    Lucky for me I was only facing about level 150 or so. His strike tile damage was just so so. For me I will never get him to 141 so then obviously not getting to this so-so limit. I don't dread his "release" but I do dread having to face the PVEs unlimited versions. The funny thing for me is that I would expect that more people would only want him for his strike tiles but the AI actually has no problem using its own blues to destroy its own strike tiles. So I'd be interested how he matches up with others with blue skills.
  • Phaserhawk
    Phaserhawk Posts: 2,676 Chairperson of the Boards
    Moon 17 wrote:
    Yeah, I'm actually glad that there's going to be a 3* Daken. An over-leveled 1 or 2* character is stronger than an over-leveled 3*, so new Daken should be less dangerous than old Daken (when their levels are equal). I have way more trouble with Juggs and Ares.

    I still don't want to see the inevitable field of Falcon/Daken/Lazy Thor teams in PvP, though. I think that will be horrible.

    Honestly I don't think Falcon and Daken are a good pairing unless you plan on going 5/5/3 and not using Chemical Reaction unless you need to. The reason. I match green, I get strike tiles, I match yellow I pump them up, I cast Chemical Reaction, those strike tiles are gone. In essence Daken works against Falcon when on the same team. You might as well build your Falcon 3/5/5 if you are going to pair him with Daken, if you decide to put 5 in Daken's blue, if not, then they could work well together, but considering Daken can destroy as many as 4 of his own strike tiles, I'm not sure they are that good of a pairing.
  • Kiamodo
    Kiamodo Posts: 423 Mover and Shaker
    Psylocke and punisher may be better parings. All those red strike tiles will make her ability super cheap.
  • Unknown
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    But then how would you decide between chemical reaction and bewilder?

    Oh, wait...
  • scottee
    scottee Posts: 1,610 Chairperson of the Boards
    Moon 17 wrote:
    Doom could pose quite a problem for him. Technopathic Strike makes him overdose, Demons fill his potential strike tiles. They should give Doom a third power.

    Hmm, you're right. Doom's a better counter than Falcon. Wipe all the blue off the board, summon 6 demons, and then you can ignore him and take down the rest of the team first.
  • Nonce Equitaur 2
    Nonce Equitaur 2 Posts: 2,269 Chairperson of the Boards
    My lazy Daken is now level 359.

    14498 health points
    Strike tiles are 144 points
    Chemical reaction damage 1555, and 1088 damage per strike tile.
    Regenerates 1015 health per turn.
  • gambl0r312
    gambl0r312 Posts: 254 Mover and Shaker
    Nonce Equitaur 2 wrote:
    My lazy Daken is now level 359.

    14498 health points
    Strike tiles are 144 points
    Chemical reaction damage 1555, and 1088 damage per strike tile.
    Regenerates 1015 health per turn.

    icon_e_surprised.gif I thought my LvL 273 was bad enough! icon_eek.gif


    Are we having fun yet?
  • Unknown
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    what im dreading is his release to the players as a character, he will be everywhere in a month or two.
  • Nonce Equitaur 2
    Nonce Equitaur 2 Posts: 2,269 Chairperson of the Boards
    Looks like I've won the "screwed by D3" reward. Anyone else seeing level 359 Daken?
  • Unknown
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    Nonce Equitaur 2 wrote:
    Looks like I've won the "screwed by D3" reward. Anyone else seeing level 359 Daken?


    Do you need an air hug? I know ppl in your condition don't usually like to be touched.

    I will likely refuse to play against dakan on desert. It's funny, his green isn't even that great. The only thing that makes him a nuisance is his low cost blue (that I totally read wrong at first...I thought it did damage to himself...that damage turned out to be BASE damage...). You can expect him to get.it off once per a match most likely. Like patch, I don't like the idea of letting him live too long. As such, he is prob the first character to nuke with attacks (if its enough to ko him). I think his best teammate on def might just simply be his daddy, patch. 2 anti-match damage strength healers, combined cover all 6 color (technically), a strong red green blue for actual attacks. Fury would make a great 3rd with his purple yellow coverage. Falcon is ok too.
  • Moral
    Moral Posts: 512
    Malkavian wrote:
    what im dreading is his release to the players as a character, he will be everywhere in a month or two.

    I think you mean a day or two. I'm expecting a LOT of 141 Dakens for the Shield Training wrap up.
  • Spoit
    Spoit Posts: 3,441 Chairperson of the Boards
    Phaserhawk wrote:
    Moon 17 wrote:
    Yeah, I'm actually glad that there's going to be a 3* Daken. An over-leveled 1 or 2* character is stronger than an over-leveled 3*, so new Daken should be less dangerous than old Daken (when their levels are equal). I have way more trouble with Juggs and Ares.

    I still don't want to see the inevitable field of Falcon/Daken/Lazy Thor teams in PvP, though. I think that will be horrible.

    Honestly I don't think Falcon and Daken are a good pairing unless you plan on going 5/5/3 and not using Chemical Reaction unless you need to. The reason. I match green, I get strike tiles, I match yellow I pump them up, I cast Chemical Reaction, those strike tiles are gone. In essence Daken works against Falcon when on the same team. You might as well build your Falcon 3/5/5 if you are going to pair him with Daken, if you decide to put 5 in Daken's blue, if not, then they could work well together, but considering Daken can destroy as many as 4 of his own strike tiles, I'm not sure they are that good of a pairing.
    Well now that it's a fixed amount, theoretically the tile boosts will be distributed all over, so losing a couple may not be quite as bad as if it were still the percentage boost. Still a reason to consider a 5/5/3 build though

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