serious 3* drought

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edited May 2014 in MPQ Tips and Guides
so im 57 days in, and i have been active getting covers and such, and I am hoping to start being able to build up a 3* team eventually but I am in disbelief at how hard it has gotten for me to pull any 3* covers anymore. I dont know how long its been but I remember I pulled a red HT during the last hotshot and I got a red punisher on a standard token and those are literally the only 2 3* heros I have got since the hunt for Falcon. and this includes my season 10pack progression reward.

do others go through similar droughts??

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  • Ludaa
    Ludaa Posts: 542
    I made a similar post to yours around day 60, feeling a lack of 3*'s. On day 92 now and not much closer to using one of them. Time, luck, or money...
  • Yea man just gotta hang in there on day 110 and only got 3 heros above 100. LT 141 pun 110 Lcap 105, getting more covers as time goes by. like he said man just gotta hang in there or be down to purchase on covers
  • Yea man just gotta hang in there on day 110 and only got 3 heros above 100. LT 141 pun 110 Lcap 105, getting more covers as time goes by. like he said man just gotta hang in there or be down to purchase on covers
  • HailMary
    HailMary Posts: 2,179
    Yeah, such droughts happen.

    I've been consistently active in PVP and PVE throughout, and here's an idea of my progression:
    viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3306&p=119626&hilit=roster+snapshot#p118757

    tl;dr -
    Day 46: scattered single covers in 3*s
    ...then a slow, slooooow cover buildup...
    Day 91: 4 L100+

    Now, I'm on Day 116, and I've got 4 L141s and two other 13-cover 3*s.

    One day at a time, man. One day at a time.
  • mohio
    mohio Posts: 1,690 Chairperson of the Boards
    I've gotta say, at 57 days in I wasn't too concerned about getting more 3* covers. I maybe had 2 2* cover maxed and they weren't the best ones, so I was still looking to put together my 2* team.

    Anyway, I've definitely been through the same thing, and probably around the same time. Then they handed out 3 Punisher covers in one of the PvE's progression rewards, I got a couple lucky tokens, top 10'd a few PvPs and I maxed out Punisher, while also building up LT (12/13 covers) and maxing LC, which all seemed to happen pretty quickly in the 70-90 day range for me. As others have said, just hang in there and focus on doing as well as you can in the events you decide to participate in, and things will come around for you.

    Good luck!
  • Tharos
    Tharos Posts: 129
    Be patient. I started working at my roster rather late (maybe around day 30). I am now at day 120, without a single maxed 3*.
    My best 3* is punisher level 115, due to the recent two pvp events. Now with the pvp bracket changes, I won't be able to earn two 3* covers on the same event, so it should be event longer to have a maxed 3*.

    Be patient, and at the current 3* cover rate, you should have a maxed 3* in about 3-4 month... Unless you buy covers, of course.
    (note: this rate is without being in a top alliance. If you have the luck to gain covers from you alliance, then it should be faster)
  • noobprime
    noobprime Posts: 403
    i'm in a similar pickle. it's like walking through the valley of death. but with an alliance, things are better, it just takes time (if you don't spend $$ on hp) and moreso patience.
  • You shouldn't really start thinking about building a 3 star team until Day 90+. I know I didn't have my first (level 100) 3 star until early January. I had been playing every day, since early October, at that point.

    Although it might be more difficult for you since there are now 19 (!!) 3 star characters diluting the pool. When I was coming up, there were only about 11-12 of them. Two of which, they gave out pretty freely (Hulk and Punisher).
  • yeah I am trying to be patient, its pretty rare for me to be able to get into top 10 of pvp, but luckily I got into a sweet alliance. The issue recently is that I am fact that im in the middle of a statistical anomaly. Its like a less than 1% chance for me to open this many heroic tokens(including event tokens) without a 3* Hopefully they have another event soon like that heroic where you could get 4/4/4 captain america steve rodgers just from that event!
  • I've been lucky with event tokens lately.
    Got DD, Psylocke and IW from Oscorp Heroic tokens and GSBW from God of Lies token.

    Also got a red Rags from a standard token today while I was mindlessly playing Prologue.

    Nothing that I'll be using any time soon but still a rare is a rare.

    But yeah, droughts suck, nothing like getting an event token and pulling some Bagman from it.
  • I'm on Day 100 and my highest character is 75. Only 2 2* characters fully covered but it's Thor and Cap, so huge overlap.

    At this point in time I just want OBW covers to finish her off, but that may not even help in the long run.
  • rixmith
    rixmith Posts: 707 Critical Contributor
    Just to join the support group... I'm on Day 111, have all 2*'s fully covered (except Bagman of course, who whenever he tries to sneak onto my Roster gets Headbutted by Juggernaut), and my top 3* is level 77. Naturally my highest level 3*s are Level 77 Rags (who I'd really like to get a cover for in Heavy Metal in spite of the number of other players moaning about him as a prize), Level 51 Loki (who will be useful for something, someday, I'm just sure of it) and Level 64 Doom. Are you scared yet?

    I got my Season 1 Heroic 10 pack and only had 1 Gold Token (my first cover for Invisible Woman, of whom I'll probably never see another). Seems like I haven't seen another Gold token for a couple of weeks. So, yeah, it does get a bit disheartening. But then I read the threads about people having to face Level 395 Daken in the PVE's and then I think, maybe I'm not missing out after all...
  • Focus on your **'s for now. ***'s take a LONG time to get covers for and level up. I'm still transitioning. At day 121, I have 2 ***'s over 100, 2 ***'s @ 90, and a bunch lower. Even if you get the covers, it'll take you a long time to get the iso to level them.

    My first usable *** (i.e. that was of a level where it made any sense to use them), was around a month ago. A big help has been the awesome alliance I'm in since we regularly rank well, and I've put some money into this game. You should know that without a lot of grinding, and/or spending money, the F2P portion of this game more or less stops with the **'s. It's doable to build a *** team without spending money, but it'll take you a LONG time and playing the game everyday almost like a second job. It took me about 3 months of playing regularly to finally start getting ***'s that weren't just sitting there as collectibles in my roster spots.

    But in answer to your question, I have run into surpluses and dearths of token pulls. On average it should even out if you keep playing regularly. I've gone through extended periods of getting nothing but junk pulls, broken up by a seeming flood of rares. One time I had a week of very good luck and pulled two invisible woman a day or two a part, but that's rare. I've actually been tracking my token pulls, and overall my pulls have been roughly consistent with the published percentage by Demiurge. So bad or good luck only really affects you if you aren't playing regularly. Over time it should balance out to the published percentages. Which basically means the primary source of getting covers is from winning tournaments, and/or buying them. So you really need to work on building your ** roster to a point where you can begin to compete for *** covers, or buy some cover packs. Generally you shouldn't buy cover packs though, especially now with no guaranteed rares, unless you need a ton of uncommons as well, and even then they're expensive. Typically if you're going to spend any money on covers, you should wait till you have at least 1 cover in the power that you want to upgrade and upgrade it directly, which seems expensive but cheaper than playing the slot machine most likely.

    My other comment is that devs seem to be increasingly punishing players for leveling their characters, and especially for building out strong *** rosters, so you may not even want to bother, and stick with **'s. If it makes you feel any better, I had an extremely slow start. I had to play nodes in prologue about 20 times to actually earn anything other than initial reward or 20 iso, and usually it involved my characters wiping each time. If it hadn't been for pvp token pulls, I'd have probably quit then and there. This game can be fun, but there's a strong focus on encouraging you to make meaningless, expensive purchases, so it's probably in your interest not to worry too much about ***'s until you actually have a bunch of them collected, or a strong enough ** roster that you can start winning them, and even then, it may not be in your interest to try to make the transition. If you manage to get ***'s, I'd keep them around for when they're featured in pve events, but I wouldn't go nuts worrying about whether you get them or not. At present, the game punishes you for actually using them.
  • atomzed
    atomzed Posts: 1,753 Chairperson of the Boards

    But in answer to your question, I have run into surpluses and dearths of token pulls. On average it should even out if you keep playing regularly. I've gone through extended periods of getting nothing but junk pulls, broken up by a seeming flood of rares. One time I had a week of very good luck and pulled two invisible woman a day or two a part, but that's rare. I've actually been tracking my token pulls, and overall my pulls have been roughly consistent with the published percentage by Demiurge. So bad or good luck only really affects you if you aren't playing regularly. Over time it should balance out to the published percentages. Which basically means the primary source of getting covers is from winning tournaments, and/or buying them. So you really need to work on building your ** roster to a point where you can begin to compete for *** covers, or buy some cover packs. Generally you shouldn't buy cover packs though, especially now with no guaranteed rares, unless you need a ton of uncommons as well, and even then they're expensive. Typically if you're going to spend any money on covers, you should wait till you have at least 1 cover in the power that you want to upgrade and upgrade it directly, which seems expensive but cheaper than playing the slot machine most likely.

    I did a calculation of the odds for 10-cover packs (assuming a 23% 3* drops) and the probability are:

    0 tokens- 7.33%
    1 tokens - 21.9%
    2 tokens- 29.4%
    3 tokens - 23.4%
    4 tokens - 12.2%
    5 tokens - 4.39%
    6 tokens - 1.09%
    7 tokens - 0.19%
    8 tokens - 0.021%
    9 tokens - 0.0014%
    10 tokens - 4.14265E-05%

    Assuming that the pack cost 3800 HP, you have a 41% chance of breaking even or making a profit (getting 3 tokens or more).

    Which also means that 59% of the time, its better for you to upgrade it directly. Which is your exact recommendation highlighted in bold above.
  • Ha ha ha. Day 110, my highest 3* is a level 38 doom.
  • Day 87 my highest 3 star that I haven't spent money on has 6 covers, will be 7 in a few days when I get the hulk daily reward. I just decided to put in $50 and buy some covers for the new daken, I like his abilities and i knew he'd be featured in the current PVP and probably a PVE soon and hopefully a few more of his covers will be given out to help me actually finish maxing him.
  • So I'm set on my 2* team with the exception of tweaking some spec's (i.e. get the 5th green cover for Ares and reduce his red back to 4) and the final cover for OBW. I'm working on my 3* but they're pretty spread around right now (5 cover BP, 4 cover HT, 3 cover Hulk ,a bunch at 1 or 2 covers, etc...). I'm on day 73 btw.

    My question is, I have been using my HP to buy a heroic token each day with the "Daily Deal". Is this a good idea? My results would say "no" since I haven't pulled a 3* from the daily deal since I started doing this a week and a half ago. Of course this is on top of the Season I awards and PVP tokens at 300 and I'm about 75% at getting in the top 50 of the PVP tournaments. I have 29 character slots right now and it seems to be enough for now and I have some characters I wouldn't mind selling if needed (I'm looking at you Moonstone icon_neutral.gif ).
  • So I'm set on my 2* team with the exception of tweaking some spec's (i.e. get the 5th green cover for Ares and reduce his red back to 4) and the final cover for OBW. I'm working on my 3* but they're pretty spread around right now (5 cover BP, 4 cover HT, 3 cover Hulk ,a bunch at 1 or 2 covers, etc...). I'm on day 73 btw.

    My question is, I have been using my HP to buy a heroic token each day with the "Daily Deal". Is this a good idea? My results would say "no" since I haven't pulled a 3* from the daily deal since I started doing this a week and a half ago. Of course this is on top of the Season I awards and PVP tokens at 300 and I'm about 75% at getting in the top 50 of the PVP tournaments. I have 29 character slots right now and it seems to be enough for now and I have some characters I wouldn't mind selling if needed (I'm looking at you Moonstone icon_neutral.gif ).
    Hero points are better used on shielding to make sure you stay in top 50 of an event than buying heroic tokens as that guarantees you a 3 star while wasting it on heroics could get you a bagman.
  • yeah I have had at least 17 gold tokens and no 3 star, if not more tokens, so im in the 1.1% of unlucky people icon_e_sad.gif

    hopefully this turns around once i get season rewards, altho that will probably only be 5 tokens
  • so this did finally end, I got a falcon cover from the sentry event icon_e_smile.gif