And the winner is...

Aeroplane

Which color and Planeswalker benefited from the last 2 sets for standard?

Blue -
it's all about River's Rebuke. With the lack of good land supports (before the flip) this card outshines all. Reset the board, no, reset your opponent with no drawback to yourself. Storm the Vault is a strong card and the cheap Perilous Voyage has no answer.

Baan -
with access to River's Rebuke - Nyx, Omni, Settle the Wreckage, Sphynx's Decree combo- vampire,dino,merfolk event objectives , Baan covers all the bases and has all the strongest cards. It's funny that River's Rebuke is the anti-Nyx combo with one play. 

Honorable mentions -

Karn -even though he's in the next set ,will shine in 5 color nodes nonetheless and access to all the above cards.

Angrath and Vraska - I like Angrath as he's anti-everything with discard but unstable if the AI ramps too quickly where RR for blue can reset your opponent. Vraska's the anti-support PW!

White- just goes too well with blue with access to lifelink, above mentioned cards, destroy supports and best symmetry of vampires.

Red - Etali!

Remember this just subjective and from experience of playing in Platinum events.

khurram

Errr..... what the heck is Bahn

Aeroplane said:

Bahn -
with access to River's Rebuke - Nyx, Omni, Settle the Wreckage, Sphynx's Decree combo- vampire,dino,merfolk event objectives , Bahn covers all the bases and has all the strongest cards. It's funny that River's Rebuke is the anti-Nyx combo with one play. 

Aeroplane

khurram said:

Errr..... what the heck is Bahn

Aeroplane said:

Bahn -
with access to River's Rebuke - Nyx, Omni, Settle the Wreckage, Sphynx's Decree combo- vampire,dino,merfolk event objectives , Bahn covers all the bases and has all the strongest cards. It's funny that River's Rebuke is the anti-Nyx combo with one play. 

Oops!

ElfNeedsFood

You could argue Blue has lost the most as well...  Baral, Incideous Will, Rashmi...  New Perspectives, Pull from Tomorrow and Drake Haven on the bubble. 

Tilwin90

You are seriously overestimating UW and underestimating other crazy combos that can go on out there.
It's natural of course since you just got your hands on Starfield. Trust me... it will lose from its appeal sooner or later. It's definitely not a cure for cancer, and once you have your opponent sweeping your supports like crazy you will start doubting its power. You are talking now about the perfect draw where you put Sphinx's Decree, follow it with Starfield of Nyx, and your opponent never pops it fast enough to cast something that removes Starfield in the meantime. 

As for River's Rebuke, sure, it's powerful as hell, but with all the disable bugs happening around here, I have found myself in some really precarious situation in which the opponent got permanent support effects, with the supports gone! Hence you have to wait for another of those pretty supports to come out, then destroy them old fashion way, then the effect is over!
- Gideon's Intervention making your opponent permanently invulnerable. (this is the worst!)
- Sorcerous Spyglass preventing me from using any planeswalker abilities (second worse... unless I have the Immortal Sun around)
- Hixus keeping all my creatures disabled. (can kill those creatures or replace them or bounce them instead of waiting for a next Hixus)
- Suppression Bonds/Desert's Hold locking down my first creature.
.... I'm sure many others.

Now I am not saying Starfield + Settle is not a crazy combo. On-contraire, it's a combo I often use especially for those no-spells matches where I have to somehow deal with opposing creatures. However, Dovin is not the only way to achieve that. Try Huatli or Bolas dinos and you'll see there are other very powerful decks out there that can put their money where their mouth is.
Or face some idiotic Zendikar's Roil + explore support combo deck and watch your amazing supports go poof in a matter of seconds. Trust me, I had an opponent get my bolas from 119 to 2 life (I got super lucky) from a Samut that put out a Samut, a Roil token that got super big, AND trample/berserker to everything! 

Dovin's problem are his mana gains and generally parasitic abilities (save for his first...). We'll see how absurd Teferi can get.

In my opinion the top planeswalkers at this moment are Karn, Bolas and Huatli, followed closely by Kiora who still hasn't lost her touch. These are the opponents I am always afraid to face. Dovin? People build nasty stuff with him, but I've faced Elspeth lockdown decks that were FAR WORSE. Sure, she is just as vulnerable to all those supports you mentioned, but because she tends to be a white planeswalker it also increases the chances of popping them naturally.

NinjaE

Why not make this a poll?

Aeroplane

ElfNeedsFood said:

You could argue Blue has lost the most as well...  Baral, Incideous Will, Rashmi...  New Perspectives, Pull from Tomorrow and Drake Haven on the bubble. 

True enough. Cycling will be missed by many. I never got NP or Baral so I don't feel the loss too badly. Pull from Tomorrow was a great card that I'll miss.

Aeroplane

Tilwin90 said:

You are seriously overestimating UW and underestimating other crazy combos that can go on out there.
It's natural of course since you just got your hands on Starfield. Trust me... it will lose from its appeal sooner or later. It's definitely not a cure for cancer, and once you have your opponent sweeping your supports like crazy you will start doubting its power. You are talking now about the perfect draw where you put Sphinx's Decree, follow it with Starfield of Nyx, and your opponent never pops it fast enough to cast something that removes Starfield in the meantime. 

As for River's Rebuke, sure, it's powerful as hell, but with all the disable bugs happening around here, I have found myself in some really precarious situation in which the opponent got permanent support effects, with the supports gone! Hence you have to wait for another of those pretty supports to come out, then destroy them old fashion way, then the effect is over!
- Gideon's Intervention making your opponent permanently invulnerable. (this is the worst!)
- Sorcerous Spyglass preventing me from using any planeswalker abilities (second worse... unless I have the Immortal Sun around)
- Hixus keeping all my creatures disabled. (can kill those creatures or replace them or bounce them instead of waiting for a next Hixus)
- Suppression Bonds/Desert's Hold locking down my first creature.
.... I'm sure many others.

Now I am not saying Starfield + Settle is not a crazy combo. On-contraire, it's a combo I often use especially for those no-spells matches where I have to somehow deal with opposing creatures. However, Dovin is not the only way to achieve that. Try Huatli or Bolas dinos and you'll see there are other very powerful decks out there that can put their money where their mouth is.
Or face some idiotic Zendikar's Roil + explore support combo deck and watch your amazing supports go poof in a matter of seconds. Trust me, I had an opponent get my bolas from 119 to 2 life (I got super lucky) from a Samut that put out a Samut, a Roil token that got super big, AND trample/berserker to everything! 

Dovin's problem are his mana gains and generally parasitic abilities (save for his first...). We'll see how absurd Teferi can get.

In my opinion the top planeswalkers at this moment are Karn, Bolas and Huatli, followed closely by Kiora who still hasn't lost her touch. These are the opponents I am always afraid to face. Dovin? People build nasty stuff with him, but I've faced Elspeth lockdown decks that were FAR WORSE. Sure, she is just as vulnerable to all those supports you mentioned, but because she tends to be a white planeswalker it also increases the chances of popping them naturally.

Karn and Bolas will be always at the top of the pack. I just believe the unconditional removal cards that were added helped Baan  the most when he was middling PW at most. Nyx also combos with Omni and Sphynx's decree. Omni coming back every turn when Settle isn't activated is hard to beat. Baan if his 2 ability is activated will draw cards as does Karn's easier first ability to add to Omni's pool. I should say Omni is the key card in this combo or to have in anyone's hand.  

 I haven't run into the bugs you've mentioned , but I can see that being annoying. 

Huatli is very good for ramping out Ghalta , but without a creature on the board she gets hamstrung quite easily.

Baan has been the PW I've lost to recently and River's Rebuke being the card that turned the tide against me from whether it's Kiora, Baan or Bolas. 

Ixalan added so many non-targeting- conditional removal cards that high mana cost creatures ,albiet from the AI ,don't last one turn from a simple Perilous Voyage or Vona's Hunger. I'm almost tempted to say River's Rebuke was created to counter  the engine of Omni or token ramp decks and the spells are for Gaia hexproof , but I'm reaching there.

 
                                                                                                                                            

DumasAG

I actually feel like Storm the Vault edges out Rebuke for best rare from the new block, but it's close. It's just so much mana. When you combine both of those cards with Tezz2, though, I think that would be my pick for biggest winner. Why yes, I will make all the treasures and servos, gain a ton of mana, kill everything you play, bounce all of your supports, make you discard your hand, and when I'm done messing around I'll use his third ability and kill you dead.

Aeroplane

DumasAG said:

I actually feel like Storm the Vault edges out Rebuke for best rare from the new block, but it's close. It's just so much mana. When you combine both of those cards with Tezz2, though, I think that would be my pick for biggest winner. Why yes, I will make all the treasures and servos, gain a ton of mana, kill everything you play, bounce all of your supports, make you discard your hand, and when I'm done messing around I'll use his third ability and kill you dead.

another great blue card! Haven't got Tezz2 yet and the AI doesn't represent him well. Storm the Vault is one of the best flip cards I believe right above Legion's Landing.

Gunmix25

Aeroplane said:

DumasAG said:

I actually feel like Storm the Vault edges out Rebuke for best rare from the new block, but it's close. It's just so much mana. When you combine both of those cards with Tezz2, though, I think that would be my pick for biggest winner. Why yes, I will make all the treasures and servos, gain a ton of mana, kill everything you play, bounce all of your supports, make you discard your hand, and when I'm done messing around I'll use his third ability and kill you dead.

another great blue card! Haven't got Tezz2 yet and the AI doesn't represent him well. Storm the Vault is one of the best flip cards I believe right above Legion's Landing.

Which if either are paired with additonal supports and Nyx.... when they pop  Nyx of course brings them back but when the nyx reincarnated support pops..... it creates an additional flipped support... so in Legions landings case... you'll get 6 activation gems and more white conversions. Same applies to StV. Dunno why this occurs but it does with nyx. Only catch is it can't be just nyx and 1 other support. It doesn't trigger as described above. Must have three or more. 

Gunmix25

Top PW IMHO
Samut, Kiora, Bolas, Huatli 2, Karn. Huatli 2 and samut are my two top go to. Bolas and karn being second. Kind of taking a liking to Angrath lately but not experienced with him enough to voice an opinion 

@Tilwin90 is right. Nyx is a great combo,  but a 1 trick pony. There are a lot of recent Cards that are flexible in many builds and are deadly in a good deck builder's  hands. I've only faced River's Rebuke maybe... 2 or 3 times in platinum. It's rarely utilized despite its power from my POV from encounters.  StW, StV, Legion's landing,  capt. Lannery, and Ghalta I see a lot. 

Tilwin90

Starfield works with flip supports because what happens is that on flip, the original support goes to the graveyard and a pseudo-token is cast in its place (actually triggers all cast effects and is taken into account when it comes to objectives).
Then on your next turn because that's the last support that entered the graveyard, comes back to the battlefield. Quite sloppy if you ask me.
I don't know how the tokens react to bounce like rebuke though... 

Laeuftbeidir

They get ignored @Tilwin90

Enygma6

They’re ignored because the token supports are Lands.  

Sirchombli

I have a strange relationship with starfield. It really is a very strong card, but it comes with some baggage. For one, its mana cost is no joke. Secondly, most of the cards you want to be abusing with it also cost a ton. Decree at 13,settle at 12, the transform supports between 8 and 12. You end up stuffing your deck with 8 cards that cost 10+ mana with a pw like dovin or ajani v with their extra mediocre mana gains and writing yourself into an awkward corner. I went through a nyx in every deck period . I think it's natural . I've gone through it with every sweet mythic . Now, I only run it in elspeth because of her mana and h2 because nyx/growing rites embalm is a really fun , powerful deck and she can handle being stuffed with expensive cards. 

I feel like green has gotten rather strong recently .All of the multicolored cards give green access to a lot of things it shouldn't have. It has ,arguably, the best hasty beats . It has graveyard recursion, it has legitimate removal. Lots and lots of card advantage. Free 12/12s. It's always been the premier color to support other colors , but it stands on its own better than it ever has before . I almost think it's too good right now. When garruk starts coming into consideration for my event deck, something is weird 

Aeroplane

Sirchombli said:

I have a strange relationship with starfield. It really is a very strong card, but it comes with some baggage. For one, its mana cost is no joke. Secondly, most of the cards you want to be abusing with it also cost a ton. Decree at 13,settle at 12, the transform supports between 8 and 12. You end up stuffing your deck with 8 cards that cost 10+ mana with a pw like dovin or ajani v with their extra mediocre mana gains and writing yourself into an awkward corner. I went through a nyx in every deck period . I think it's natural . I've gone through it with every sweet mythic . Now, I only run it in elspeth because of her mana and h2 because nyx/growing rites embalm is a really fun , powerful deck and she can handle being stuffed with expensive cards. 

I feel like green has gotten rather strong recently .All of the multicolored cards give green access to a lot of things it shouldn't have. It has ,arguably, the best hasty beats . It has graveyard recursion, it has legitimate removal. Lots and lots of card advantage. Free 12/12s. It's always been the premier color to support other colors , but it stands on its own better than it ever has before . I almost think it's too good right now. When garruk starts coming into consideration for my event deck, something is weird 

Huatli 2  does well with only Ghalta as a creature with Sandworm Convergance (gone soon) and the 3 creatureless vampire cards, Legion's Landing - Squire's Devotion -Queens Commission Add Uncage the Menagerie to get 6 Ghalta. Overcome can increase the power of your tokens to get Ghalta started , too. You can throw in Gaea's Revenge as it's a great card all by itself. The Vampire tokens ramp her first ability real quick with legion's Landing flipping to give you a mana ramp with more tokens. She was designed very well not like her older dino sister.

Tilwin90

Laeuftbeidir said:

They get ignored @Tilwin90

Not all of them. Spires of orazca, treasure cove, lost vale, primal wellspring don't have the land subtype...