Did the AI get a buff?

Mburn7

I've noticed over the last couple days (especially today) that the AI seems to be a bit better than it has been since the lobotomy.
Was there an update I didn't know about?

I'm seeing Ob save up for his ult (despite me having a creature out), I see Karn using his ult (but not his second), and generally more intelligent matches overall (although not quite as good as it was).

Can someone confirm if this was intentional and not just random luck? Thanks!

khurram

Mburn7 said:

I've noticed over the last couple days (especially today) that the AI seems to be a bit better than it has been since the lobotomy.
Was there an update I didn't know about?

I'm seeing Ob save up for his ult (despite me having a creature out), I see Karn using his ult (but not his second), and generally more intelligent matches overall (although not quite as good as it was).

If this was intentional and not just random luck, Thanks!

No

Sirchombli

I don't think so. I had a match yesterday against angrath . I had a terrible start . I would have been extra dead if he popped his ult. Just kept spamming his first . I could be wrong, but I don't think so . The current iteration of Greg is just awkward. I've noticed that it occasionally behaves oddly, but there doesn't really seem to be any sort of reasoning behind it. 

Steve111

The black trial of the planes today was a nightmare. Facing level 60 Bolas all the way, the AI was able to empty their whole hand on multiple occasions with troll decks, mainly broken imminent doom decks. Point is that Greg was able to get multiple match 5’s within two turns and it was impossible to compete. If this continues I don’t see the point of playing, just watching 10 minutes of the AI playing cards (in one turn) and then obliterating me is not fun. 

bk1234

It seems worse to me

Steve111

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that when it was eventually my turn all I was left with was a loyalty gem match

bk1234

Steve111 said:

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that when it was eventually my turn all I was left with was a loyalty gem match

Hope you were using Karn!!

IM_CARLOS

The get lucky again and cascading a lot. Plus in totp events blue and black are a lot omni/whir around. If the opponent "luckily" cascade into whir first turn you are almost dead. Not fun.

But I did not see Greg acting wiser than before. Yes Ob did not use his first over and over again and probably saving for ult, but today he didn't kill baral when doom already took him down to half life. Not so wise I think. But against a charged doom Ob has already lost, with or without baral. So in the end it only could buy time. 

IM_CARLOS

But more and more omni poisoning the game. Hope they nerf this card. One month earlier I would say don't nerf , but todays omni decks are well tuned, even Greg could pilot these decks to victory. In a blink of an eye, your board is empty, opposite is fllooded with pig or similar beasts and you lost before you even find a answer.

Aeroplane

Greg varies I believe what platform your in with my experience.Story mode is easy, Across Ixalan it matches better and cascades but skill inept.. etc..again just my experience.

Aeroplane

IM_CARLOS said:

But more and more omni poisoning the game. Hope they nerf this card. One month earlier I would say don't nerf , but todays omni decks are well tuned, even Greg could pilot these decks to victory. In a blink of an eye, your board is empty, opposite is fllooded with pig or similar beasts and you lost before you even find a answer.

HUF with Deploy the Gatewatch, Baral, various loop decks.. There are various ways Greg can get on a roll and win. I've lost to  the Deploy the Gatewatch loop or HUF combo more than Omni. One HUF can bring out 12 creatures if there are no other spells in the deck. Pig teamed with Emrakul = gameover.

bk1234

Aeroplane said:

IM_CARLOS said:

But more and more omni poisoning the game. Hope they nerf this card. One month earlier I would say don't nerf , but todays omni decks are well tuned, even Greg could pilot these decks to victory. In a blink of an eye, your board is empty, opposite is fllooded with pig or similar beasts and you lost before you even find a answer.

HUF with Deploy the Gatewatch, Baral, various loop decks.. There are various ways Greg can get on a roll and win. I've lost to  the Deploy the Gatewatch loop or HUF combo more than Omni. One HUF can bring out 12 creatures if there are no other spells in the deck. Pig teamed with Emrakul = gameover.

Omni has been out for 8 months -- I've seen it less than 5 times and have never lost to it. 

I've lost to HUF -- HUF is the most broken card in the game (and almost everyone has it or can craft it).

I run a deck with Goggles, HUF, Deploy and 3 dinos -- only one person I know of has ever beat it -- Omni is nothing compared to HUF. 

Sirchombli

The whole omni vs huf debate is old and ultimately pointless. Omni can hurt to face , but really isn't this bogey man that everybody always cries about . Sure totp can be brutal, but you can lose 4 times and still make progression as long as it isn't 4 in a row . If you are losing 4 in a row, you should probably just save your crystals . I lost, nerf this card is just lame. Huf can be scary ,too . But it does 1 of 2 things. In legacy ,it vomits out lots of big scary monsters . Sometimes you die .Most of the time Greg doesn't get the opportunity to play it . If you find yourself routinely losing to a 21 mana spell , your deck is too slow anyway. In standard the first huf either deals 70 damage to you or creates random chaos if they're green , but it's roughly the same. If you keep losing to the same 21 mama spell , tweak your deck. Huf is a reality just like omni . Crying and hiding under the bed isn't going to make it go away. 

Aeroplane

Losing Whir of Invention was a nerf in itself for omni in standard.

bk1234

So the big question is -- is AI more difficult or is it card combos? I still say AI is the same -- but seeing a lot of good combos especially in legacy. 

Mainloop25

Even most of us who have Omniscience said it should  have been nerfed. It never got nerfed so we dropped the idea. 

Mburn7

bken1234 said:

So the big question is -- is AI more difficult or is it card combos? I still say AI is the same -- but seeing a lot of good combos especially in legacy. 

My query was in regard to ability usage, but I definitely agree decks are getting better.

Jonster78

What I have been seeing the last couple of days is a combination of the AI playing better, the board not seemingly give what the player needs to get cards out, and the answers to what the AI is playing not coming up.  I've tweaked  what wining decks and still seeing losses with the AI getting Piggy out by turn 2?

Brakkis

I don't see the AI getting better with it's ability usage. Still tends to spam the same abilities over and over, regardless of how much loyalty it has.

But the gregscades, those have just gotten ridiculous. It's not even a matter of gem swap choice. It's the 30+ mana cascades that follow a single match 3.

jtwood

I haven’t seen any change in either Greg’s ability or the amount of extraordinary cascades he hits. He’s still dumber than smart, and he still doesn’t seem to hit any more crazy cascades than I do. 

DBJones

I've seen more clustering of cards lately. I run low level cycling for super quick Training Grounds wins, so it's really obvious when it happens. Also, they did say they were adding different levels of AI intelligence a couple updates ago, the fact that its skill usage is still broken and cascades matter far more than choice of gem match just make it hard to tell.