Attn: SHIELD, X-Men, and Venoms on PvP

Renaldoo
Renaldoo Posts: 114
edited May 2014 in MPQ Alliances
The world war you wage in PvP is both unnecessary and massively unprofitable. I've stalked your rosters, I know you don't need those Invisible Woman covers! I've tried to avoid you people, starting events at the weirdest hours I can think of, but somehow, one of you always manages to end up in there, and don't think I don't know that this is no accident!

What I propose is this: you have made it clear that you're pretty much the only game in town which can average over 1100 points per player. So, simply choose the winner ahead of time, and rotate each PvP event (if cover rewards are desirable for some reason, hostilities could certainly resume for particular events.) The chosen winners can each grind up to 1100, then pop the one shield they need to stay up there. Then people (like me) could still win in an individual bracket, but your alliance would still certainly maintain #1.

Perhaps your season score might not be as high as you like, but I'm willing to bet the hp you save in shields will more than make up for an extra heroic 10-pack at the end of the season.

Do you put the most time and effort in to this game? Obviously. Does this entitle you to win all the time, whether or not you need the rewards? If that's what you want, it sure does. But why!? We will all make more hp in the long run if this senseless conflict can be resolved peaceably!
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  • Ducky
    Ducky Posts: 2,255 Community Moderator
    Isn't the point of PvP to try and be number one? Additionally, if those three weren't taking all the top spots, then a different set of alliances would be.

    If you can't compete, don't whine about those who can, imo.
  • *mutters under breath* Django has won more than x-men yet we're never mentioned. You make django's upset. You bad people.
  • wade66
    wade66 Posts: 212 Tile Toppler
    Perhaps their enjoyment of the game comes from victory. Nobody plays with the goal of not winning. If everyone settles, nobody improves.
  • Renaldoo
    Renaldoo Posts: 114
    DuckyV wrote:
    Isn't the point of PvP to try and be number one? Additionally, if those three weren't taking all the top spots, then a different set of alliances would be.

    If you can't compete, don't whine about those who can, imo.

    Perhaps numbers 2 and 3 would be different, but #1 would always be one of the three, (or four, sorry Django.) The glory of occupying the top slot is fleeting compared with the riches there are to be gained if this war were to end!
  • Clintman
    Clintman Posts: 757 Critical Contributor
    I feel your frustration, and the top alliances honestly do not want the #1 prizes in these events, unfortunately the season ranking is all based on these PVP ranks, which forces alliances to go hard in events they would typically ignore.

    I really do wish it were different, but until things change, the power of your roster and your obligations to your team mates will determine placement.
  • JamieMadrox
    JamieMadrox Posts: 1,798 Chairperson of the Boards
    If you're interested, 5 deadly is recruiting right now. We have 3 slots open and I'm pretty sure that we could accommodate you. Don't believe everything you've read, we're not the evil empire.
  • Twysta
    Twysta Posts: 1,597 Chairperson of the Boards
    That's what this guy said...

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  • JamieMadrox
    JamieMadrox Posts: 1,798 Chairperson of the Boards
    Twysta wrote:
    That's what this guy said...

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    Where did you get that picture of klingsor? It's a good likeness.
  • Renaldoo wrote:
    and don't think I don't know that this is no accident!

    Hahaha, I love it. They are targeting you! I have no problem. icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
  • Renaldoo wrote:
    The world war you wage in PvP is both unnecessary and massively unprofitable. I've stalked your rosters, I know you don't need those Invisible Woman covers! I've tried to avoid you people, starting events at the weirdest hours I can think of, but somehow, one of you always manages to end up in there, and don't think I don't know that this is no accident!

    What I propose is this: you have made it clear that you're pretty much the only game in town which can average over 1100 points per player. So, simply choose the winner ahead of time, and rotate each PvP event (if cover rewards are desirable for some reason, hostilities could certainly resume for particular events.) The chosen winners can each grind up to 1100, then pop the one shield they need to stay up there. Then people (like me) could still win in an individual bracket, but your alliance would still certainly maintain #1.

    Perhaps your season score might not be as high as you like, but I'm willing to bet the hp you save in shields will more than make up for an extra heroic 10-pack at the end of the season.

    Do you put the most time and effort in to this game? Obviously. Does this entitle you to win all the time, whether or not you need the rewards? If that's what you want, it sure does. But why!? We will all make more hp in the long run if this senseless conflict can be resolved peaceably!

    God sakes, man! You sound like Neville Chamberlain!
  • If anything you should be happy they are inflating scores so.you can actually reach the 1.1k progress rewards. If you are missing 1st by a position or two, then you should be happy someone like reckless treats her cash like tissue paper for events, because ppl can reach 1.1 and even 1.3k every event now. If you aren't close to top, then if someone like reckless wasn't playing you would STILL be losing to someone else.

    Heck, if you want to.blame anyone, blame the devs. Ppl like me and most of the players with full rosters only.really competed to get new covers they didn't have yet before...then they changed it and added alliances and seasons...so that there is ALWAYS
    Also, reckless is a departed ghost of a person who died in a texting car crash...forever to roam the world at night playing MPQ I've heard. Nemek is actually from dragonball Z, as his name was suppose to be namek but the name was taken already. Beeeee started to write a name down and cracked mentally part way through....by the time the e-key was released it was no longer of this world. Bubbleboy is a bubbleboy and cannot leave his bubble. When not playing Mpq he is likely petting his favorite stuffed animal with a glove on a stick.

    You see, they all have thier own story as to why they are here and they should be accepted, not rejected for thier compulsive need to do better than Djangounbuffed simply so Unwiseone doesn't make top 3. You...you all know that's why they are doing this right?
  • If anything you should be happy they are inflating scores so.you can actually reach the 1.1k progress rewards. If you are missing 1st by a position or two, then you should be happy someone like reckless treats her cash like tissue paper for events, because ppl can reach 1.1 and even 1.3k every event now. If you aren't close to top, then if someone like reckless wasn't playing you would STILL be losing to someone else.

    Heck, if you want to.blame anyone, blame the devs. Ppl like me and most of the players with full rosters only.really competed to get new covers they didn't have yet before...then they changed it and added alliances and seasons...so that there is ALWAYS
    Also, reckless is a departed ghost of a person who died in a texting car crash...forever to roam the world at night playing MPQ I've heard. Nemek is actually from dragonball Z, as his name was suppose to be namek but the name was taken already. Beeeee started to write a name down and cracked mentally part way through....by the time the e-key was released it was no longer of this world. Bubbleboy is a bubbleboy and cannot leave his bubble. When not playing Mpq he is likely petting his favorite stuffed animal with a glove on a stick.

    You see, they all have thier own story as to why they are here and they should be accepted, not rejected for thier compulsive need to do better than Djangounbuffed simply so Unwiseone doesn't make top 3. You...you all know that's why they are doing this right?

    None of the guys above 1300 are unshielded for any extended period of time unless you got another Kyipgate. In practical terms unless you catch one of those guys when they're unshielded there's relatively little impact on your ability to reach 1100 or higher.
  • reckless442
    reckless442 Posts: 532 Critical Contributor
    Phantron wrote:
    If anything you should be happy they are inflating scores so.you can actually reach the 1.1k progress rewards. If you are missing 1st by a position or two, then you should be happy someone like reckless treats her cash like tissue paper for events, because ppl can reach 1.1 and even 1.3k every event now. If you aren't close to top, then if someone like reckless wasn't playing you would STILL be losing to someone else.

    Heck, if you want to.blame anyone, blame the devs. Ppl like me and most of the players with full rosters only.really competed to get new covers they didn't have yet before...then they changed it and added alliances and seasons...so that there is ALWAYS
    Also, reckless is a departed ghost of a person who died in a texting car crash...forever to roam the world at night playing MPQ I've heard. Nemek is actually from dragonball Z, as his name was suppose to be namek but the name was taken already. Beeeee started to write a name down and cracked mentally part way through....by the time the e-key was released it was no longer of this world. Bubbleboy is a bubbleboy and cannot leave his bubble. When not playing Mpq he is likely petting his favorite stuffed animal with a glove on a stick.

    You see, they all have thier own story as to why they are here and they should be accepted, not rejected for thier compulsive need to do better than Djangounbuffed simply so Unwiseone doesn't make top 3. You...you all know that's why they are doing this right?

    None of the guys above 1300 are unshielded for any extended period of time unless you got another Kyipgate. In practical terms unless you catch one of those guys when they're unshielded there's relatively little impact on your ability to reach 1100 or higher.
    if that were so, we wouldn't be seeing the broad increase in points for all players. When somebody unshields, they go into other player's queues and remain there even if they re-shield. I am often targeted by other players hours after I have put up a shield. And when a player in the 1000s can get a 35-pt win over me, that player becomes a higher-value target for players below him. It creates a cascade effect that inflates scores across the board. It used to be that when you hit 1000, you had to fight a bunch of 5- to 10-pt matches. Now it's relatively easy to find matches worth 25 points or more.

    And I don't treat my cash like tissue paper. A 3-hr shield costs 37.5 cents using the 20,000 HP:$100 Stark Salary exchange rate. So let's say I buy 10 3-hr shields (I'm not saying I do) during an event. That comes to $3.75 that I've spent over a 2- to 3-day event. That's less than a movie ticket; hell, it's less than popcorn at the movie theater. When I pro-rate that by the number of hours I spend on the game, it is a pretty small amount compared to how I spend other dollars on entertainment.
  • Nemek
    Nemek Posts: 1,511
    Nemek is actually from dragonball Z, as his name was suppose to be namek but the name was taken already.

    You spell one word wrong some 15 years ago in 6th grade computer class and it just lives with you the rest of your life...
  • Lol I tend to allow people to get top spot if it don't harm the alliance. Always have always will. Your complaining to the wrong people. Plus I need the ISO that IW gives lol they need to bring back first time completion bonus ISO in PVE otherwise I'll make sure no one gets no more xforce or IW covers in my bracket. You now see the effects of ISO starvation.
  • If anything you should be happy they are inflating scores so.you can actually reach the 1.1k progress rewards. If you are missing 1st by a position or two, then you should be happy someone like reckless treats her cash like tissue paper for events, because ppl can reach 1.1 and even 1.3k every event now. If you aren't close to top, then if someone like reckless wasn't playing you would STILL be losing to someone else.

    Heck, if you want to.blame anyone, blame the devs. Ppl like me and most of the players with full rosters only.really competed to get new covers they didn't have yet before...then they changed it and added alliances and seasons...so that there is ALWAYS
    Also, reckless is a departed ghost of a person who died in a texting car crash...forever to roam the world at night playing MPQ I've heard. Nemek is actually from dragonball Z, as his name was suppose to be namek but the name was taken already. Beeeee started to write a name down and cracked mentally part way through....by the time the e-key was released it was no longer of this world. Bubbleboy is a bubbleboy and cannot leave his bubble. When not playing Mpq he is likely petting his favorite stuffed animal with a glove on a stick.

    You see, they all have thier own story as to why they are here and they should be accepted, not rejected for thier compulsive need to do better than Djangounbuffed simply so Unwiseone doesn't make top 3. You...you all know that's why they are doing this right?

    Lol my surname is actually beee so yea good one there lol
  • kensterr
    kensterr Posts: 1,277 Chairperson of the Boards
    Clintman wrote:
    I feel your frustration, and the top alliances honestly do not want the #1 prizes in these events, unfortunately the season ranking is all based on these PVP ranks, which forces alliances to go hard in events they would typically ignore.

    I really do wish it were different, but until things change, the power of your roster and your obligations to your team mates will determine placement.
    Thanks. I know some players would gladly skip the pvp tournaments if it wasn't for the stupid Seasons ranking. I try to get those 4* covers but it's futile.
  • I don't have all the 4* covers and I still don't want them. You're not missing out on much.
  • I don't try for first unless I really want the cover/ covers. I'm just hoping that xforce gets buffed sooner then later and he can become an iso dump. Btw I am probably going for firt in loki, we'll see.
  • Well how could we fix this? Make 1-10 same reward? Perhaps get rid of this season **** or at the very least make it so some events are not alliance or season based so players can take events off and not feel like they're screwing their alliance? This current setup will more likely burn out players faster than keep them hooked longer.

    Just sayin...