Masterpieces

asm0deus
asm0deus Posts: 73 Match Maker
in MtGPQ General Discussion
I miss the days when you had a shot a pulling a masterpiece from all packs available. But since the new set came, they can only be pulled via elite packs. I sure hope they become available again from pulling booster/super/premium packs. Or maybe even be craftable in the future. 15k orbs for a masterpiece? I wouldnt mind spending 20k orbs for a chance to get a guaranteed msterpiece. One can only hope..
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  • sjechua
    sjechua Posts: 173 Tile Toppler
    Legacy MPs only for 15,000 Orbs, ok. Ways to earn orbs? 250 Runes = 5 Orbs? :wink:
  • Quantius
    Quantius Posts: 228 Tile Toppler
    Masterpieces don't exist.
  • NinjaE
    NinjaE Posts: 213 Tile Toppler
    Quantius said:
    Masterpieces don't exist.

    and the cake is a lie.
  • arevala
    arevala Posts: 53 Match Maker
    I got duplicated masterpiece recently... so, whats the deal of spending 400 mana jewels and being so lucky to pull a MP? lol, i ve been trolled. 2.5k orbs is just not going to compensate my frustration
  • Azerack
    Azerack Posts: 501 Critical Contributor
    Up till now I'd been spending the 120 to go for Rare/Mythic/probably-not-Masterpiece...
    Then I decided to save up and try for a masterpiece with 400... 
    I got one!.. yay... 
    Why just "yay"?.. Electrolyze...  And I was like, um... yeah.. great.. 

    I'm fine with the 120's even though I DID get a dupe rare, last time. But I kinda wish they would have gone with the same logic as the Boostercrafting where you can't get something you already have... 

    (yes, I know my Electrolyze rant was off topic.. sorry.. just had to rant a little  ;) )
  • Sirchombli
    Sirchombli Posts: 322 Mover and Shaker
    I've been buying the 120 packs since they took away event rares. Since I'm acquiring cards at a much slower pace, it took me 8 or 9 rolls before I pulled a dupe rare and I managed 2 mythics. I've been pretty anti elite pack from the jump because of the ridiculous disparity amongst the elite collection. I'm not going to elaborate too much on my specific feelings about ixalan mps. I'll just say this. There are 2 that I would be content with and 1 that I actually want. 30% of 25% doesn't seem like a gamble I'm willing to take. I can easily come up with 120 jewels in a week , so I'll stick to that. I'm not happy about it , but I haven't quite hit the point where new cards become a myth. I feel like they could definitely do better than this .
  • asm0deus
    asm0deus Posts: 73 Match Maker
    bken1234 said:
    400 mana jewel packs should be MP only. You either pull a new one or you get 2500 orbs no 15% bonus the first month. 

    120 packs should be raised to 200 and be mythic or rare. 

    It takes players who aren't Platinum in top coalitions so long to save the pink stuff. I understand the no re-roll policy, but what really gets me is saving that long and pulling a dupe mythic (which happened to me the other day). It's ridiculous the way elite packs are set up right now. 
    I like this. And what if they could change the daily sign in reward to something like runes/orbs/crystals/pinks/pack. 20+ extra pinks a month would help a lot, for vets and newbies
  • Bil
    Bil Posts: 831 Critical Contributor
    edited March 2018
       I pulled so much dupes from 400 pink packs that i can't remember them all. I even pulled 6 age of revelation in a row (fortunately when reroll policy was still available ) ... 
       Anyway, Since XLN was about to be released and the new card pools were supposed to help us i bought 8 pps ... At least 3 of them gave me a dupe (probably 4 actually but i got so used to it i don't try to remember anymore).
        I guess i should have felt like the mayor of valuetown with my amazing 4000 orbs but i actually feel more and more like a cow thats being milked... 
       
        Oh well ... we get more pinks and a lot of boosters ... But ... What do we get from them ?

       The end of non reroll policy should have come with something to compensate ... But nothing has been done so we take the hit.
       XLN boosters are given as a reward for each and every event ... With droprates divided by 2.5...

       There's a taste of "Let's give more so they get less" ... isn't it?
  • asm0deus
    asm0deus Posts: 73 Match Maker
    I cant even find valuetown on the map and my gps cant find a signal. No way i can be mayor of a place i cant find.
  • Gunmix25
    Gunmix25 Posts: 1,442 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited March 2018
    Azerack said:
    Up till now I'd been spending the 120 to go for Rare/Mythic/probably-not-Masterpiece...
    Then I decided to save up and try for a masterpiece with 400... 
    I got one!.. yay... 
    Why just "yay"?.. Electrolyze...  And I was like, um... yeah.. great.. 

    I'm fine with the 120's even though I DID get a dupe rare, last time. But I kinda wish they would have gone with the same logic as the Boostercrafting where you can't get something you already have... 

    (yes, I know my Electrolyze rant was off topic.. sorry.. just had to rant a little  ;) )
    Electrolyze is like exquisite firecraft on crack. EF gets a ton of play in red builds for 6 mana for 6 damage to PW ir creature. Electrolyze can't target a PW but deals upwards to 8 damage for 7 mana should you choose a creature twice. That's 1+ damage to the average 1 mana = 1 damage ratio that exists in PQ. That and if you are facing token generation, in many cases the spell is a removal spell rather than a damage spell. Anyways I so wish I had that card. Love it if my  Blue collection has a direct damage card.
  • Bil
    Bil Posts: 831 Critical Contributor
    edited March 2018
      asm0deus said:
    I cant even find valuetown on the map and my gps cant find a signal. No way i can be mayor of a place i cant find.
       Your gps is probably too cheap to find it!
  • James13
    James13 Posts: 665 Critical Contributor
    edited March 2018
    bken1234 said:
    400 mana jewel packs should be MP only. You either pull a new one or you get 2500 orbs no 15% bonus the first month. 

    120 packs should be raised to 200 and be mythic or rare. 

    It takes players who aren't Platinum in top coalitions so long to save the pink stuff. I understand the no re-roll policy, but what really gets me is saving that long and pulling a dupe mythic (which happened to me the other day). It's ridiculous the way elite packs are set up right now. 
    Problem with that is that the jewel distribution model is exceptionally(!) top-heavy.  Rewards should be far less exponential as a first step.  You have the "winners" getting actual hundreds and a proposed MP pack each event whereas the mere "solid" performers in the 25s~50s get tens.
  • Bullvinne
    Bullvinne Posts: 77 Match Maker
    If they keep how long it takes to earn Jewels in-game, then the Elite Packs need to be like booster crafting. A guaranteed non-dupe card.

    Of if they want to keep the chance for dupes, I like @bken1234's Idea of making the 400 jewel pack a MP only, and raising the 120 jewel pack a little and making it Mythic and Rare
  • Mojo
    Mojo Posts: 44 Just Dropped In
    The problem with MP only is people in elite coalitions will get all the good cards while the rest of us don't.  You get so few pinks if your not in top 10, heck I thought it was Christmas the one event they screwed up on and gave everyone top prize.  So I think this is their way of keeping higher players in check.
  • wereotter
    wereotter Posts: 2,070 Chairperson of the Boards
    Azerack said:
    Up till now I'd been spending the 120 to go for Rare/Mythic/probably-not-Masterpiece...
    Then I decided to save up and try for a masterpiece with 400... 
    I got one!.. yay... 
    Why just "yay"?.. Electrolyze...  And I was like, um... yeah.. great.. 

    I'm fine with the 120's even though I DID get a dupe rare, last time. But I kinda wish they would have gone with the same logic as the Boostercrafting where you can't get something you already have... 

    (yes, I know my Electrolyze rant was off topic.. sorry.. just had to rant a little  ;) )
    Electrolyze was recently buffed. It's a lot better than it was before.
  • TomB
    TomB Posts: 269 Mover and Shaker
    Mojo said:
    The problem with MP only is people in elite coalitions will get all the good cards while the rest of us don't.  You get so few pinks if your not in top 10, heck I thought it was Christmas the one event they screwed up on and gave everyone top prize.  So I think this is their way of keeping higher players in check.
    2 points to keep in mind about what you're saying here:

    1. The whole idea (as I understand it) behind Mana Jewels was to give top players reasons to keep playing once they acquire all the rare cards and more than a few of the more powerful mythics. By giving them another game currency to chase in an effort to collect those evasive MP's they're provided with motivation to, among other things, spend Crystals on TotP to get more Jewels to help move things along. Elite packs, and the chase after MP's, give us all motivation (in theory) to increase our Mastery level to Platinum so that when we win, if we win, we earn more pinkies. If anything, it gives "higher" players reasons to keep competing and striving to become even "higher".
    2. Many of the MP's are actually weak cards. A few are VERY strong but, by and large, mythic cards are more powerful and most of the time there's a lot of rares in a given set that see a lot more play.
    I guess my point is you shouldn't get discouraged about not having access to as many MP's, since you really don't need them to compete. I myself own 2 MP's. 1 never sees play, and the other I use only in a Standard vampire build (and honestly, it shouldn't have been made a MP IMHO).
  • Volrak
    Volrak Posts: 732 Critical Contributor
    Mojo said:
    You get so few pinks if your not in top 10.
    Also maybe worth mentioning that the biggest regular jewel income comes from individual grinding (on AI, TotP) and high individual placement (e.g. 300 jewels for top 5 finish in events like HoD).  Neither of those depend on being in a top 10 coalition, though that can certainly add some icing on the cake.  Both do however depend on being in a high tier like platinum (which I guess ties in to their purpose of being the end-game currency).
  • andrewvanmarle
    andrewvanmarle Posts: 978 Critical Contributor
    asm0deus said:9
    I cant even find valuetown on the map and my gps cant find a signal. No way i can be mayor of a place i cant find.

    I was about to make the exact same joke, I just late to the party haha

  • khurram
    khurram Posts: 1,090 Chairperson of the Boards
    Bullvinne said:

    Of if they want to keep the chance for dupes, I like @bken1234's Idea of making the 400 jewel pack a MP only, and raising the 120 jewel pack a little and making it Mythic and Rare
    So there will be no guaranteed mythics from either of the elite packs? That is an absolutely terrible idea, I'm sorry.

    And the rate of acquiring jewels has already been increased very generously compared to what we had before. Do people even play AX?

    The reason lower tiers get less jewels is because MPs and guaranteed mythics are end game contents and therefore targeted towards high tier players.

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