Commune with Dinosaurs confusion

AdriA

The description of the card is "Fetch the next dinosaur card from your library and convert three gems to green" and it is doing both actions but it's converting the gems before it fetchs the dinosaur from library.

Furks

It's certainly better to convert AFTER the fetch, but if that can't be done due to some weird technical reasons, then the wording should definitely be changed. It would also be better if it said THEN instead of AND: Fetch the next dinosaur from your library, then convert three gems to green. 

AdriA

Maybe it is a case of miswording and yes it would be better using "then".

DragonSorcerer

@Brigby are we ever going to get this fixed ? We should get the dinosaur first THEN convert the gems.

octal9

This is an effect that was changed ages ago with Seasons Past, which returned cards to hand before performing its gem conversion.



It was deemed too powerful by both players and developers and subsequently re-balanced.

The wording should be changed to match the actual effect, but as a vet that's been there before: I'd say Commune should work exactly as it is currently.

Brigby

I'll be sure to ask the team about the design intent behind that card, however from my own personal perspective, I would agree with what @octal9 stated.

"Commune With Dinosaurs" 's low mana cost, and having it fetch the card before converting, would enable a lot of extremely strong cascade combos; perhaps too strong.

Sarahschmara

Brigby said:

I'll be sure to ask the team about the design intent behind that card, however from my own personal perspective, I would agree with what @octal9 stated.

"Commune With Dinosaurs" 's low mana cost, and having it fetch the card before converting, would enable a lot of extremely strong cascade combos; perhaps too strong.

While I agree with this sentiment, this is not how the card is written which is what’s causing the confusion. 

MtG is, at its heart, based on doing what it says on the card. For paper players, the inconsistency and confusing wording in PQ is absolutely maddening. This should be a top priority!

Furks

Either the functionality of the card needs to be changed to reflect the text or the text needs to be changed to match what it's currently doing. 

Cards that don't do what they say are confusing  especially when deck building. 

octal9

For clarity, I 100% agree that the wording should be updated:

octal9 said:

The wording should be changed to match the actual effect, but as a vet that's been there before: I'd say Commune should work exactly as it is currently.

Commune is one of several with this issue.

Mburn7

octal9 said:

For clarity, I 100% agree that the wording should be updated:

octal9 said:

The wording should be changed to match the actual effect, but as a vet that's been there before: I'd say Commune should work exactly as it is currently.

Commune is one of several with this issue.

Unfortunately, in the last Q&A the devs said that updating language was a low-priority fix for them.  We'll just have to learn to live with it for a while

Furks

There's a difference between grammar/spelling mistakes (its vs it's, his vs their, ...) and cards not doing what they say they do. I can understand the first being low on the radar as they don't really impact gameplay, but the latter surely needs to be considered a bug of higher priority  

CanSpice

I'd like to bump this one up in priority, as the order of operations listed on the card does not match with the order of operations that are actually performed.