IWIK (I wish I knew -- Card Mechanics)

bk1234
bk1234 Posts: 2,924 Chairperson of the Boards
**Discord questions provided in ThePower9 public channel and used with permission.

I wish I knew:

-- Which side of flipping supports Nyx will cast. 

-- If Conqueror's Galleon will be cast with Saheeli's ult

-- If Beckett Brass offers the option to steal a creature if you have 3 on your side and its trigger conditions are met

-- If “next card gains full mana” effects fill Dreadnought entirely or will they add exactly 30 mana?

-- In cases where there’s a conflict on the card list, does the image or the written description take precedence?

-- If transformed supports will be reinforced immediately when additional copies of the front halves are cast, or will it be possible to have both the front and back halves in play at the same time? Also, if it’s the latter scenario, when a 2nd front half transforms, will it reinforce the original copy or will 2 separate back halves occupy different gems and generate separate effects?

-- If life loss counts as damage and/or vice versa (for purposes of cards like Arguel’s Blood Fast)? If life loss and damage are distinct (or if one is a proper superset of the other), will Obelisk Spider or any other older cards have their descriptions and/or functionality changed to reflect the new behavior?

-- Is Glorifier of Dusk’s “vigilance until end of turn” accurate, or is the description incorrect and will vigilance last until the beginning of your next turn instead?

-- If Electrolyze counts as the first copy of a creature when determining how much damage to deal per reinforced copy (i.e. 8 damage for an unstacked creature)?

Please feel free to add yours and update with answers as we try our new cards this week!

Comments

  • ElfNeedsFood
    ElfNeedsFood Posts: 944 Critical Contributor
    If creature types inherited by Arcane Adaption will follow creatures into the graveyard when they die. 
  • Gideon
    Gideon Posts: 356 Mover and Shaker
    We are the beta testers . So I’ll let you know on Thursday.
  • FindingHeart8
    FindingHeart8 Posts: 2,731 Chairperson of the Boards
    I suspect there will be issues with the "next cards gains full mana" effects and Dreadnought.  With the finite amount of mana given for 30 equaling full mana, 30 mana was probably the pre-established mana cap, just like 30 loyalty points was the universal planeswalker cap. 

    Additional coding would probably be required to raise the cap, which I doubt has been done considering the grammar on the cards still wasn't fixed upon release of the sneak peek.
  • ElfNeedsFood
    ElfNeedsFood Posts: 944 Critical Contributor
    Well if they lower the cost of the S.S. Unobcastium by one point, they won’t need to change any coding and it will remain just as unplayable. 
  • FindingHeart8
    FindingHeart8 Posts: 2,731 Chairperson of the Boards
    lololol

    I'd run it if it was 5 mana or less, but I doubt they'd consider dropping it that low ;)
  • FindingHeart8
    FindingHeart8 Posts: 2,731 Chairperson of the Boards
    or lowered it to like 9 mana CMC, but maybe added a cool ability like:

    "Whenever this creature attacks, deal 2 damage to the first creature your opponent controls."

    Like it's firing its cannons while sailing in to ram the ship.  Be pretty snazzy.
  • ElfNeedsFood
    ElfNeedsFood Posts: 944 Critical Contributor
    12 mana would be reasonable for the Dreadought. 15 might still see play. 
  • FindingHeart8
    FindingHeart8 Posts: 2,731 Chairperson of the Boards
    12 mana would be reasonable for the Dreadought. 15 might still see play. 
     with crew 4 or the extra fun ability I added?


  • ElfNeedsFood
    ElfNeedsFood Posts: 944 Critical Contributor
    Just with the way it’s written. You bonus ability would be great though. ;)
  • Szamsziel
    Szamsziel Posts: 463 Mover and Shaker
    Answer: conquer galleon is not a valid target for saheeli ultimate. 
  • Stormcrow
    Stormcrow Posts: 462 Mover and Shaker
    bken1234 said:
    **Discord questions provided in ThePower9 public channel and used with permission.

    -- If transformed supports will be reinforced immediately when additional copies of the front halves are cast, or will it be possible to have both the front and back halves in play at the same time? Also, if it’s the latter scenario, when a 2nd front half transforms, will it reinforce the original copy or will 2 separate back halves occupy different gems and generate separate effects?
    Additional copies get played "face up" (untransformed), you can have both front and back in play at the same time, when a 2nd support transforms, it reinforces the first transformed one. In other words, they behave exactly like transforming creatures do.

    Tested with Conqueror's Galleon and Primal Amulet.

    Sidenote: Conqueror's Galleon starts with 4 shield! Pretty amazing considering it only needs to hit 5 to flip. Meanwhile, Primal Amulet starts with...1 shield. What??