To simplify your math, here's what a 450 Reyes is capable of. I'm not going to bother putting in the description, just summarize.
Green - 9ap
3 covers - 3 repeater that every other turn destroy 3 surrounding GRB tiles, 2x Damage
4 covers - 3 repeater that every other turn destroy 3 surrounding GRB tiles, 3x Damage
5 covers - 3 repeater that every turn destroy 3 surrounding GRB tiles, 3x Damage
Red - 7ap
Stun 1 turn, 6 turn CD, whenever targeted character makes a match take 1648 damage ALT do 8348
Stun 1 turn, 7 turn CD, whenever targeted character makes a match take 2620 damage ALT do 9740
Stun 1 turn, 8 turn CD, whenever targeted character makes a match take 3656 damage ALT do 12520
Black - 10 ap
Deal 9768 or 13448
Deal 11396 or 15692
Deal 14652 or 20176
BlackBoltRocks said: His Green is amazeballs. It's the default five-cover power, destroying max 9 tiles every turn, doing 3x its usual tile damage, AND generating AP (I presume). It could be crazier than GladiaThor's passive.Red and Black are the variables. 5 Red works best with other stunners to ensure the targeted enemy is the only one making matches, while 5 Black is more for boss battles, although it can also punish heavy hitters.
I think I agree with you - his Green is pretty fantastic as an AP generator and the fact that it generates more than one repeater gives it some staying power. That plus cascades will make it pay off very quickly, easily it's his best power.
His red and black are interesting - both are fairly reasonable in cost for what they do. His black compares very favorably to Natasha's - does good damage normally, outstanding damage if a condition is met. Same cost and about the same damage too. I know, Natasha isn't even close to a top tier character anymore (if she ever was,) but black is almost certainly her best power so there's that. I don't have a solid grasp on his Red - it's very different and looks like it combine well with, say, Hawkeye. It might be his weakest power but at least it's cheap.
All in all, as you can see by my vote, I put him somewhere in the top tier, probably on the low end. Does not change our current Gambit meta, but that's not a surprise - neither did GladiaThor or Archangel. We'll leave the arguing over the Gambit meta to another thread.
fahq1977 said: First impressions:The Not-so-Good:Green does NOT live up to its billing. Like @Vhailorx said, the green is not cheap, so it takes a while to get started. Plus, the repeaters ONLY target his colors, so they can go off with no effect. The damage they do is somewhere between 1.2K and 5K, depending on if it hits 1, 2, or 3 tiles. That's not bad, but not worth 9 green unless you have no other 5*s who use green. But hell, even a boosted rogue would be a better damage option for green. In practice, it was not the AP battery that it appears. The repeaters can be matched away easily, and I found the AP gain to be too erratic. Thor, Gambit and BB all generate AP with more effectiveness.
OJSP said: Polares said: Well thing is, you get 9AP back on the first turn (not all green obviously) plus cascades plus damage so in a way it is 5k dmg on the first turn for free, and after that is 5k more damage plus more cascades. It blows SS black hole in every possible sense.Even if you loose one repeater every turn for 9AP you would get 18AP, plus cascades, plus 10k dmg.It might not be as good as Gambit or Thor, but it looks like quite good. I wonder how crazy can it be if played WITH Thor :PBlack also think is very good, if you always fire against the max dmg dealer it is 20k for 10AP. That is really good. You are assuming that all 3 repeater tiles are surrounded by enough Red, Green or Black tiles.
Polares said: Well thing is, you get 9AP back on the first turn (not all green obviously) plus cascades plus damage so in a way it is 5k dmg on the first turn for free, and after that is 5k more damage plus more cascades. It blows SS black hole in every possible sense.Even if you loose one repeater every turn for 9AP you would get 18AP, plus cascades, plus 10k dmg.It might not be as good as Gambit or Thor, but it looks like quite good. I wonder how crazy can it be if played WITH Thor :PBlack also think is very good, if you always fire against the max dmg dealer it is 20k for 10AP. That is really good.
RunningMan said: What do you mean his green takes 3 more turns to have effect? At 1-4 covers, it's a 2-turn repeater, at 5 covers, it's a 1-turn repeater.@Brigby With respect to his black power, is the condition that the target has done the most damage of the remaining enemies still alive? ie: would the black power always do max damage on the final enemy?
RunningMan said: So it sounds like even if they were the last enemy, they have to have done SOME damage for black to hit for full? But even if the other two (who are now downed) had previously done more damage than the remaining enemy, it would still hit for full after they made a match?What were your general impressions after using him for 20 or so pvp matches? How well covered is your GR and what level?