Roster Help: Getting Impatient for 3*s

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I've been stuck in 2* limbo for quite a long time now and impatience is starting to set in as I can't place high anymore in recent pvp events, especially the most recent one (Dr. Doom) where I get multiple hits even before finishing a match. Didn't finish top 50, alliance didn't finish top 100, not a single falcon cover reward. Frustrating.

Anyway, I have been stashing my ISO, about 250k now, for that first 3* that I will level to 141. Unfortunately, 3* covers that I want maxed are not going my way. I'm contemplating on whether I should level up my other mid-tiered 3*s to just above 100 to make my team more competitive. As for my roster, only LCap and Doom can be leveled to 102. So, setting aside the 170k of my ISO for that first ideal 141, i.e., thor, pun, patch, mags, I figure I may use the other 80k to level up LCap. Then, I could run a Hulk105/LCap102/Pun89 or Hulk/LCap/req'd team in the meantime, hoping for better pvp/pve results. I don't want to touch my 2*s anymore. But I'm not sure if this is a good idea. Also, I'd be more than happy to hear any other advice and comments you may have.

My roster:

3*s
Hulk L105 5/1/4
Punisher L89 3/3/3
LThor L77 2/3/3
LCap L30 2/4/4 (can soft max to 102)
Panther L30 2/1/3
GSBW L30 2/2/2
Torch L30 2/1/1
Mags L18 3/2/2
Patch L16 3/0/2
Doom L15 5/4 (can soft max to 102)
Hood L15 2/1/3
Falcon L15 2/2/2
Rags L15 2/2
Psylocke L15 1/2/1
DD L15 2/0/1
Loki L15 2/1
IM40 L15 1/1/1
Spidey L15 0/1/0

2*s
OBW L85 5/4/4
Storm L85 5/5/3
Thor L85 3/5/5
Wolvie L85 5/5/3
Ares L6 4/4/5
Cap L6 3/5/5
Mags L6 3/5/5
Daken L6 5/5

Ludaa

I'm in almost the same situation as you right now. I saved up 250k and have a couple 3* characters close to being usable, but I know now that "close" could mean another month or two in this game. I check for a HP sale every day, HOPING I can speed things up by dropping a twenty. Only advice I can give is to find an active 20-man alliance. I stayed in a good, but smaller alliance for too long and missed out on a lot of covers. We just have to keep chugging along, knowing that we'll have enough iso when the mpq gods smile down upon us!

NorthernPolarity

Yeah, once you get to 250k iso you should consider pumping iso into characters that you will be able to use: LazyCap is a better investment than Doom I think due to the level cap. I don't think that cap will be that much better than what you have, but he's fine as a character to rotate in.

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Ludaa wrote:

I'm in almost the same situation as you right now. I saved up 250k and have a couple 3* characters close to being usable, but I know now that "close" could mean another month or two in this game. I check for a HP sale every day, HOPING I can speed things up by dropping a twenty. Only advice I can give is to find an active 20-man alliance. I stayed in a good, but smaller alliance for too long and missed out on a lot of covers. We just have to keep chugging along, knowing that we'll have enough iso when the mpq gods smile down upon us!

I'm already on a 20-man team. Only, some members are not as active. We normally make it to the top 100, but not recently. Also, I'm F2P so I farm for HP the hard way.

NorthernPolarity wrote:

Yeah, once you get to 250k iso you should consider pumping iso into characters that you will be able to use: LazyCap is a better investment than Doom I think due to the level cap. I don't think that cap will be that much better than what you have, but he's fine as a character to rotate in.

I was hoping that having LCap at 102 would make a better team from what I already have. Hmm.. now that you mentioned that cap will not be much better, it got me thinking again (or more).

mouser

One other positive with Doom is he's one of the best for villain LR. Even though they've nerfed the rewards in there, if you can do well enough in the LR's to at least get some heroic tokens out of them a lucky pull could get you a key cover to make another 3* viable.

He's not that great in most other PVP's though.

Unknown

They need to make some of the 'lesser' 3 star characters have a 2 star availability. DD, Loki, Doom, Rags, LazyCap would be great choices.

I see too many rosters like the one the OP has. It didn't used to be this hard.

Unknown

Don't worry about holding 170K ISO for a character you want. The best characters are the ones you have Covers for, otherwise your ISO is just sitting around doing nothing. keep in mind if you are a F2P player it will take a long time to max out a specific character, which means you'll be earning ISO in the meantime.

I'd hold 50-100K max back.

Heroic Oscorp
I would level your 2* Cap and 2* Mag to level 50 minimum, so you can use them in Heroic Oscorp buffed up to level 90. This will cost you 23386 ISO each, a drop in the bucket. Maxing them costs 69575 each, which is much more of an investment. I level all my 2 * heroes to level 50 at least so i can use them when buffed.

Those two characters you can use to make a stunlock machine for Oscorp heroic.

Doom
I would also level Doom to 102, this will cost you 84K ISO, but an almost max character who you can use for Dark Avengers, Evil Tourney, and Lightning rounds. Although maybe hold off until the next villain lightning rounds start since you can't use him in Heroic Oscorp.

LCap
LCap to 102 would cost you 80K ISO, but i don't find him as useful, and since he's not buffed for any event and not usable in Oscorp Heroic, i'd hold off on him. At level 102, he'd have around 5400 health, so 2* Thor is still probably a better simulator character.

I wouldn't invest in him until you have 5 in blue/red, and only if he's currently useful in something.

tl;dr: spend 47K to get 2*mag and cap to level 50, and if you want, level Doom to 102 for 84K Iso.

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Thank you all for the inputs, and SirKopath for the detailed suggestions. This is indeed very helpful for looking at things in a different perspective. Initially, I really just wanted to get a high tier 3* to max so I could do much better in events, and not get pummeled all the time in pvps. That is where the impatience set in. You're right, being an f2p player means that it would take ages for me to reach that goal. Also leveling up 2* Mags and Cap does make sense.

HailMary

MonCagz wrote:

Initially, I really just wanted to get a high tier 3* to max so I could do much better in events, and not get pummeled all the time in pvps. That is where the impatience set in. You're right, being an f2p player means that it would take ages for me to reach that goal. Also leveling up 2* Mags and Cap does make sense.

As a fellow F2P player who's a bit farther along than you, the only general advice I have is to be patient. My 2*-3* transition took the form of getting 3 3*s to L102 as my new A-team, then waiting for further covers. It took two months to go from 4 maxed 2*s to 1 L141, and even that was on the back of 4 events awarding LThor covers.

If you have 5 red in Mr. Rogers, I'd actually recommend leveling him. He's quite solid.

Toxicadam wrote:

They need to make some of the 'lesser' 3 star characters have a 2 star availability. DD, Loki, Doom, Rags, LazyCap would be great choices.

I see too many rosters like the one the OP has. It didn't used to be this hard.

You consider Mr. Rogers to be a "lesser" 3* like Loki & Rags? Ouch. I'd say that he's a very solid My First 100+, and L100+ Doom is rather decent as well.

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HailMary wrote:

As a fellow F2P player who's a bit farther along than you, the only general advice I have is to be patient. My 2*-3* transition took the form of getting 3 3*s to L102 as my new A-team, then waiting for further covers. It took two months to go from 4 maxed 2*s to 1 L141, and even that was on the back of 4 events awarding LThor covers.

Thanks for your inputs, HailMary. With what I have, I was thinking of having a few level 100+ 3*s while waiting for that first L141, but still having second thoughts hence the post. Do you think Hulk-L105, LCap-L102, and one more (potentially Doom-L102 or Pun at L89 is nearing) would make a decent enough transition A-team? Good to know that you consider LCap as a solid choice, but wondering if there's synergy with Hulk. Right now, I usually run Pun-L89/OBW-L85/loan-char for pvps. If there's no required char such as simulator, I switch Hulk in. Do you see the addition of a L102 LCap as an overall improvement with what I already have? Thanks again.

HailMary

MonCagz wrote:

Thanks for your inputs, HailMary. With what I have, I was thinking of having a few level 100+ 3*s while waiting for that first L141, but still having second thoughts hence the post. Do you think Hulk-L105, LCap-L102, and one more (potentially Doom-L102 or Pun at L89 is nearing) would make a decent enough transition A-team? Good to know that you consider LCap as a solid choice, but wondering if there's synergy with Hulk. Right now, I usually run Pun-L89/OBW-L85/loan-char for pvps. If there's no required char such as simulator, I switch Hulk in. Do you see the addition of a L102 LCap as an overall improvement with what I already have? Thanks again.

I'd go for the 3xL100+ as an intermediate stage. If you have a 10-cover 3* that's solid and has a good cover distribution, go ahead and level it. Some of my fellow Djangoliers didn't have a multi-L100 phase and went straight for a single L141, but that was generally because they got a solid fully covered 3* before getting several 10-cover 3*s.

Frankly, L102 Hulk is not that scary. Hulk needs to be L115+ to be a good deterrent, because his sheer size is his main weapon. Ceteris paribus, I'd gladly fight L102 Hulk over L85 OBW, Thor, or Ares. That said, I haven't looked up any of the numbers, but I suspect that L102 Hulk will tank green for your Thor, which turns Hulk into a sizable meat shield for Thor while you match green for Call the Storm.

Your Punpun & OBW have good synergy. Rogers & OBW could be interesting, though, since OBW Recon would accelerate Rogers' powers. I can't directly compare the two, since I have zero experience with a sub-L100 Punpun, but I'll wager that L102 Rogers with 4R provides better damage-per-turn than a 3G Punisher + OBW Espionage.

Both Rogers and Hulk would make a good third character for Punpun + OBW: Rogers hits on red, and his shield return can then seamlessly fuel a Retribution finisher. Hulk can tank and generate green for Punpun. I'd lean towards Rogers over Hulk.

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argh!... all the different opinions.

Seriously, thanks to all of you for your comments. I think I've made up my mind and level my LCap to 102 and add him to my rotation. Hopefully, this would result to better than worse. And I might as well spend some part of the 170k iso I'm saving for other characters to improve my rankings in the current pve. It could take a lot more time before I could get enough cover for a L141.

Here we go... no turning back