Thor Call of Storm green power nerfed?

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Is anyone else seeing an issue with Thor's green power doing equal damage to all three enemies? It always used to damage the target for twice as much damage but now is doing 870 to all three targets. Is this a bug or did devs change it? Thanks.

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I haven't verified in game, but the green power description wording was definitely changed.

I just tested this with 2-star Thor in the Story (aka prologue) and it still hits just as hard. Verified 3-star Thor too, the target receives double damage, only the description wording was changed.

"Thor summons a violent storm to smite the enemy. The rage of the heavens rains down on the battlefield, dealing 1001 damage to all enemies and an additional 1001 to the target."

My thor is 3/5/5 I attacked Venom with 1821 health, Daken 1086, and Yelena 1715. I target Venom (who died) and Daken now has 85, and Yelena has 714. So it's double damage to the target, 1001 to the rest.

Nonce Equitaur 2

It now does 2X, 1X, 1X damage to opponents. Used to do X, X/2, X/2 damage to opponents. The wording has changed.

It's mostly the same, but the main target will now take a few points less damage than before.

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The wording used to be 'Do 100% damage to target, and 50% to other two targets". It's been changed to "Do 100% damage to all enemies, plus 100% to the target". The amount of damage done is still the same, though as Nonce pointed out Thor mysteriously does 2 less damage with Call the Storm than before at level 141.

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Phantron wrote:

The wording used to be 'Do 100% damage to target, and 50% to other two targets". It's been changed to "Do 100% damage to all enemies, plus 100% to the target". The amount of damage done is still the same, though as Nonce pointed out Thor mysteriously does 2 less damage with Call the Storm than before at level 141.

So its a huge buff then?? Why the hell would they buff thor?!?!

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sms4002 wrote:

Phantron wrote:

The wording used to be 'Do 100% damage to target, and 50% to other two targets". It's been changed to "Do 100% damage to all enemies, plus 100% to the target". The amount of damage done is still the same, though as Nonce pointed out Thor mysteriously does 2 less damage with Call the Storm than before at level 141.

So its a huge buff then?? Why the hell would they buff thor?!?!

It's 0% change, just the wording has changed.

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sms4002 wrote:

Phantron wrote:

The wording used to be 'Do 100% damage to target, and 50% to other two targets". It's been changed to "Do 100% damage to all enemies, plus 100% to the target". The amount of damage done is still the same, though as Nonce pointed out Thor mysteriously does 2 less damage with Call the Storm than before at level 141.

So its a huge buff then?? Why the hell would they buff thor?!?!

No, he does 2 less damage so it's a Nerf.

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It used to say: do X dmg to target, plus X/2 dmg to other opponents.
Now it says: do Y dmg to all opponents, plus Y dmg to target. In other words, do 2Y dmg to target, plus Y dmg to other opponents.

where X = 2Y

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rashabon wrote:

sms4002 wrote:

Phantron wrote:

The wording used to be 'Do 100% damage to target, and 50% to other two targets". It's been changed to "Do 100% damage to all enemies, plus 100% to the target". The amount of damage done is still the same, though as Nonce pointed out Thor mysteriously does 2 less damage with Call the Storm than before at level 141.

So its a huge buff then?? Why the hell would they buff thor?!?!

It's 0% change, just the wording has changed.

I see what it says now. Don't know why they felt the need to change it though. It was much easier to read before. Now we have to do math to figure out how much damage the target will take! ew.

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sms4002 wrote:

rashabon wrote:

sms4002 wrote:

Phantron wrote:

The wording used to be 'Do 100% damage to target, and 50% to other two targets". It's been changed to "Do 100% damage to all enemies, plus 100% to the target". The amount of damage done is still the same, though as Nonce pointed out Thor mysteriously does 2 less damage with Call the Storm than before at level 141.

So its a huge buff then?? Why the hell would they buff thor?!?!

It's 0% change, just the wording has changed.

I see what it says now. Don't know why they felt the need to change it though. It was much easier to read before. Now we have to do math to figure out how much damage the target will take! ew.

No idea why. My guess is that now it says you do double damage to the target as opposed to before which said you do half damage to everybody else.

jojeda654

sms4002 wrote:

I see what it says now. Don't know why they felt the need to change it though. It was much easier to read before. Now we have to do math to figure out how much damage the target will take! ew.

I'm gonna say that newer players will be more likely to identify CoTS as an AoE skill by changing the description to "damage to all enemies."

Buy 3, get one free sounds better than Buy 1, get 2 50% off.

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jojeda654 wrote:

sms4002 wrote:

I see what it says now. Don't know why they felt the need to change it though. It was much easier to read before. Now we have to do math to figure out how much damage the target will take! ew.

I'm gonna say that newer players will be more likely to identify CoTS as an AoE skill by changing the description to "damage to all enemies."

Buy 3, get one free sounds better than Buy 1, get 2 50% off.

It does?

Buy 3, get one free = 4 for the price of 3 = 25% off.

Buy 1, get 2 50% off = 3 for the price of 2 = 33% off.

ToryTory

I like the QOL changes to the game. It's more concise and they should do that with all the wording. It's easier read x damageto all. Current target takes 2x damage. Now to add how much damage Ares green does pre protect tiles.

Demiurge_Will

Rashabon is right; there's no change to the amount of damage Thor does.

There were a couple of cases with the old wording where rounding could cause the advertised amount of damage to be slightly off (if the ability did 118.3 damage to everyone and 118.3 additional damage to the target, the text would say you do 237 damage to the target, when actually, because of the order in which damage is rounded and applied, it does 236). This change is a fix for that.

Nonce Equitaur 2

Demiurge_Will wrote:

Rashabon is right; there's no change to the amount of damage Thor does.

Not quite right. At max, Level 141 Thor used to deal 3856 damage instead of 3854 damage. 2 points less damage.

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Nonce Equitaur 2 wrote:

Demiurge_Will wrote:

Rashabon is right; there's no change to the amount of damage Thor does.

Not quite right. At max, Level 141 Thor used to deal 3856 damage instead of 3854 damage. 2 points less damage.

According to what they posted it's a rounding error of 1 due to display, which means they tried to sneak past a nerf of ONE damage and hope nobody noticed!

ngoni

So is it now considered two separate attacks to the primary target? This makes a difference if there are protect or strike tiles out- they get to work twice rather than once.

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Phantron wrote:

Nonce Equitaur 2 wrote:

Demiurge_Will wrote:

Rashabon is right; there's no change to the amount of damage Thor does.

Not quite right. At max, Level 141 Thor used to deal 3856 damage instead of 3854 damage. 2 points less damage.

According to what they posted it's a rounding error of 1 due to display, which means they tried to sneak past a nerf of ONE damage and hope nobody noticed!

Based on what Will said I thought it was the other way around... That is, it's ALWAYS done 3854 damage, but previously the description inaccurately said 3856 damage.

Nemek

gamar wrote:

Phantron wrote:

Nonce Equitaur 2 wrote:

Demiurge_Will wrote:

Rashabon is right; there's no change to the amount of damage Thor does.

Not quite right. At max, Level 141 Thor used to deal 3856 damage instead of 3854 damage. 2 points less damage.

According to what they posted it's a rounding error of 1 due to display, which means they tried to sneak past a nerf of ONE damage and hope nobody noticed!

Based on what Will said I thought it was the other way around... That is, it's ALWAYS done 3854 damage, but previously the description inaccurately said 3856 damage.

I think that's what Phantron is also kind of saying, while also pointing out that you can't really have a rounding error of 2 when you're only adding two numbers together. If 3856 is too high because of rounding, then the true value must be 3855, and 3854 is one less than even that (so the 1 point nerf he points out.) But, 3855 is also an impossible number to achieve, since it's odd.

Though it's hard to really say if we don't really know how they round numbers (maybe they always round down?)

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Phantron wrote:

Nonce Equitaur 2 wrote:

Demiurge_Will wrote:

Rashabon is right; there's no change to the amount of damage Thor does.

Not quite right. At max, Level 141 Thor used to deal 3856 damage instead of 3854 damage. 2 points less damage.

According to what they posted it's a rounding error of 1 due to display, which means they tried to sneak past a nerf of ONE damage and hope nobody noticed!

Its a thor nerf ..you should be happy