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  • Gilesclone
    Gilesclone Posts: 735 Critical Contributor
    I tried it with Prized Amalgam, Lilliana’s Oath, and Graf Harvest.  It was okay, but I don’t think it added much.
  • ArielSira
    ArielSira Posts: 520 Critical Contributor
    Like Giles said, seems like a lot of effort for a 14 mana card with so-so effect. My 3 Prized Amalgams were worth more than +1/+1 every turn. The decks themselves would work already without it.
  • Brakkis
    Brakkis Posts: 777 Critical Contributor
    My question is why is this card considered Legacy?
  • DBJones
    DBJones Posts: 803 Critical Contributor
    It's probably because it's not part of any of the sets defined as Standard.
  • Brakkis
    Brakkis Posts: 777 Critical Contributor
    DBJones said:
    It's probably because it's not part of any of the sets defined as Standard.
    Well that's the obvious reason. The question should have been "Why wasn't this just made a part of the current set for the purposes of PQ?" I understand it's part of the unset, but since that set doesn't exist within PQ, the card should have been bundled in with the current active set.

    As is, it's just a card that'll collect dust purely based on the fact that it's not standard so it's not allowed in most of the current coalition based events; and, I personally hate Legacy events/decks.

    They gave us (me) a paper weight for the holidays
  • FindingHeart8
    FindingHeart8 Posts: 2,731 Chairperson of the Boards
    @Brakkis

    I wouldn't even put it in my legacy decks.  Too many better cards out there for legacy.  It would have to be less than 10 cmc to be even worth considering.

    But I suppose for new players who've yet to see a mythic, it could help turn their 2/2 zombie into a 3/3 lifelink deathtouch...might help clear a few of the intro rounds in story mode.
  • Mainloop25
    Mainloop25 Posts: 1,959 Chairperson of the Boards
    It's not anything I would use in any really competitive deck, but it does help for those objectives that require you to lose creatures along with Relentless Dead. 
  • FindingHeart8
    FindingHeart8 Posts: 2,731 Chairperson of the Boards
    Mainloop25 said:
    It's not anything I would use in any really competitive deck, but it does help for those objectives that require you to lose creatures along with Relentless Dead. 
    That's a fair point.
  • ElfNeedsFood
    ElfNeedsFood Posts: 944 Critical Contributor
    I totally used this to meet the lose 4 or more creatures objectives in the non-coalition events. It’s fun and quirky and barely usable, a lot like Thopter Pie Network. 
  • FindingHeart8
    FindingHeart8 Posts: 2,731 Chairperson of the Boards
    ElfNeedsFood said:
    I totally used this to meet the lose 4 or more creatures objectives in the non-coalition events. It’s fun and quirky and barely usable, a lot like Thopter Pie Network. 
    To be fair, Thopter Pie Network is the only mass damage card that blue has.  So while it may be fairly weak, it does still have a unique purpose (also it's a pretty swell card for noobs just starting too)
  • Mainloop25
    Mainloop25 Posts: 1,959 Chairperson of the Boards
    Except how would a noob ever get one? 
  • Mainloop25
    Mainloop25 Posts: 1,959 Chairperson of the Boards
    octal9 said:
    It can be used to good effect. Potentially competitively as well (note that it can only be used in Legacy).

    As I linked above, you can throw it in with a God-Pharaoh's Gift. Combine these two with a few creatures, one that's literally anything with impactful ETB effect. When you make matches, yes, it'll destroy that creature, and any others, while pumping your first. GPG then brings that creature back at the start of your next turn while triggering its ETB effect. This means you'll fire off that ETB every turn.

    Take the following cards for example:

    Tyrant of Valakut/Skysovereign - AOE damage to all opponent's creatures/opponent. Will eventually result in a full board wipe, regardless of hexproofed Gaea's Revenges
    Heart of Kiran - Fabricate 4 every turn will provide protection for your crucial supports above while pumping your first creature - works great with defender/reach in the first slot
    Aethertide Whale - will energize the entire board
    Angel of Sanctions - Destroy target Creature, then Embalm for additional "Screw you, Greg"
    Archangel Avacyn - Permanent Prevent Damage/Reach for your first slot
    Emrakul, the Promised End - ಠ_ಠ
    Decimator of the Provinces - see above
    Drowner of Hope - see Decimator of the Provinces 
    Harbinger of the Tides - bounce bounce bounce bounce
    Startled Awake - see Drowner of Hope
    Sundering Titan - see Startled Awake (okay, granted - this one is a MP)
    Volcanic Ramber (Sarkhan/Bolas) - cascade ahoy


    If you can get reach/defender on Desolation Twins token, you can summon it (a 10/10) every turn. That'd be fun.

    When Vraska's available you can pump Undergrowth Champion with this. Or use Conclave Naturalists to destroy a support every turn.

    but yeah I agree, the card is worthless and totally not fun to play in combination with any supports, especially not colorless rare ones. Thanks for nothing, Oktagon!

    Brilliant. Also, it really helps to fill your hand up when you have creatures with Emerge. 
  • FindingHeart8
    FindingHeart8 Posts: 2,731 Chairperson of the Boards
    Mainloop25 said:
    Except how would a noob ever get one? 
    shoot you're right.  Would have to be someone who started playing then, got the card, quit, but recently came back.

    Sometimes I forget how long I've been playing this game :D 
  • Zzyzzx
    Zzyzzx Posts: 251 Mover and Shaker
    I've been running it with Lily III in a silly devoid/injest/process build since a little after Christmas.I got it.
    The other day, just for fun, I swapped out a BFZ critter for Bontu thinking that I could make her attack every turn.  I found that, while my Eldrazi Scions grew and grew, Bontu never died in 2nd slot.  So there's a neat quirk, it doesn't kill the 2nd critter, just deals massive (prevented) damage  B)
  • Gunmix25
    Gunmix25 Posts: 1,442 Chairperson of the Boards
    Zzyzzx said:
    I've been running it with Lily III in a silly devoid/injest/process build since a little after Christmas.I got it.
    The other day, just for fun, I swapped out a BFZ critter for Bontu thinking that I could make her attack every turn.  I found that, while my Eldrazi Scions grew and grew, Bontu never died in 2nd slot.  So there's a neat quirk, it doesn't kill the 2nd critter, just deals massive (prevented) damage  B)

    SDR destroys the "last creature" not the second creature unless that creature is the last creature. Token generators are perfect for SDR to help maintain an additional creature beyond the first
  • Zzyzzx
    Zzyzzx Posts: 251 Mover and Shaker
    Ah yes, in every scenario I've seen with this I had a beefy scion in the 1st position and Bontu in the 2nd, the 3rd position was empty.

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