over 300 points lost in pvp inn under 5 mintues

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not fun at all, in fact its absolutely spirit breaking, i dropped form 4th to 38th place in the the duration of beating someone else.... lame... there needs to be some cap on points lost over a certain time

make that 365 in 7 minutes.
roughly 408 points loss after 15 minutes, this includes points gained form wins..

I don't even know how to feel about this.

Linkster79

Really is soul destroying.

I spent an age tryingto get to 900 for those HP. I was at 898 and got a victory worth 22, only to lose over 100 points during that match. 1 loss was for 48 points and the retaliation on that was for 2 points. How the hell am I even showing up in their list if they have just 58 points? No way was I going to battle 2x141 plus high level Doom for 2 bloody points.

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another 2 losses at 42 and 36 each as i just sit here in complete numb shock I have gone form 4th place to under 50th since right before i made this post i... i just dunno what to think man...everyone woke up and demolished me i guess... why am i on so many people who i have never fought attack list? they have double my levels and the levels of others in my bracket **** is going on.

Linkster79

Last 2 or 3 hours are an absolute feeding frenzy. Why spend all event grinding out wins when you can just log in the last few hourss and devour anybody not shielded?

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Malkavian wrote:

another 2 losses at 42 and 36 each as i just sit here in complete numb shock I have gone form 4th place to under 50th since right before i made this post i... i just dunno what to think man...everyone woke up and demolished me i guess... why am i on so many people who i have never fought attack list? they have double my levels and the levels of others in my bracket **** is going on.

That sucks enormously. I thought I was unlucky last week when I unshielded for 2 minutes to find a -70 (one from a 1* team who theoretically shouldn't have been able to beat me in that time). But your story takes it to a whole new level.

How many points did you have and what was your team composition?

Slarow

There is a huge push right around the 3 hour mark, as people boost one last time to shield. You should not be unshielded at this time, especially if you are in 4th place and you are well above where you should be... The fact that you dropped 300 points and yet still are in 38th place says you were way above your league in points in the first place, and should have been shielded...

Unknown

Honestly, this is the one thing I hate about pvp. You can actually find people to attack that aren't in your rank tree. I usually try to get shielded at the 3 hour mark...but this current pvp event is B to the S. Falcon is not the best 3 star....so I am goin for HP. I cant make top 150 at this point. It has been non stop taking hits for the entire event. 5 to 10 losses at a time, in-match for the entire 2.5 day event. The only thing that I can think of that would inspire such zeal for pvp is the 5k progression for season one, which is a heroic 10 pack. I must have earned the 600 point mark 5 different times because of all of the attacks. Soul crushing doesn't describe the feeling accurately. It feels like an obvious money grab for shields.

Unknown

The last few hours are absolutely brutal. Ever watched any zombie movies? Smart thing to do is to avoid them and stay shielded.

Unknown

I feel for you. Reminds me of a similar thread I made:

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1812

The funny thing about that screenshot now is I was ranked 1 with only 646 points.

Unknown

I wish they would just make it so the defense team could not actually lose points, just the winning team gaining points that way. Coming out of a win to a -90 + is just pathetic and utter ****. Having close to 500pts and 5min later having 234 just pisses me off to no end...what exactly is FUN about that?

Unknown

Yeah...finally made it back up to top 100...and in 3 minutes...lost 178 points to be busted back down to rank 174. Total bull. All this "last 3 hours are brutal" business is not enough of an excuse for that kind of weaksauce. All of the point loss happened in match, by about 13 or 14 different players. weak. weak. weak. I dont quite understand how any of us show up on that many radars in general, but I am sure it had 100% to do with me attacking people and them retaliating. But in match...all at the same time. I got hosed big time. I'm sure glad i dont spend money on this game...

update: Final Tally: Rank 222 with 500 points. In the last 5 minutes i actually went from 697 to 500. there were upwards of 25 people...all on their phones, taking down Brochacho. Straight up hosed. My screen flashed 3 times "-72"...."-68"...."-56"...my PQ soul got crushed after it was totally obliterated, put back together, and then **** again.

Unknown

The last 3 hours of any event are a total smack down, as tons of people are shielded so whomever is left in the pot is shown as a target.

If you want to save your sweet hard earned points, i'd recommend getting up to 6-900 points earlier in the tournament, and shielded until the end (or breaking at some point if you think you can make a higher rank)

Otherwise you're just more meat to the slaughter

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tcourtney wrote:

I wish they would just make it so the defense team could not actually lose points, just the winning team gaining points that way. Coming out of a win to a -90 + is just pathetic and utter ****. Having close to 500pts and 5min later having 234 just pisses me off to no end...what exactly is FUN about that?

This doesn't work. If you can't lose points, then the game becomes a total grind fest, and whomever can play the most and sleep the least wins.

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SirKopath wrote:

tcourtney wrote:

I wish they would just make it so the defense team could not actually lose points, just the winning team gaining points that way. Coming out of a win to a -90 + is just pathetic and utter ****. Having close to 500pts and 5min later having 234 just pisses me off to no end...what exactly is FUN about that?

This doesn't work. If you can't lose points, then the game becomes a total grind fest, and whomever can play the most and sleep the least wins.

Works better than 15 teams hitting you in the time you can hit 1...how the fudge is that fair?

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tcourtney wrote:

SirKopath wrote:

tcourtney wrote:

I wish they would just make it so the defense team could not actually lose points, just the winning team gaining points that way. Coming out of a win to a -90 + is just pathetic and utter ****. Having close to 500pts and 5min later having 234 just pisses me off to no end...what exactly is FUN about that?

This doesn't work. If you can't lose points, then the game becomes a total grind fest, and whomever can play the most and sleep the least wins.

Works better than 15 teams hitting you in the time you can hit 1...how the fudge is that fair?

I completely agree. However, they won't change it because they make money by people shielding themselves. I really wish they could come up with some other cash grab that wasn't game breaking. They could at least limit it to one attack per 10 minutes or one attack on the player for each attack they make over an hour.

Unknown

I wish there was a way that when your attacked the game takes you out of anyone else's Que then once the fight is over you gi back in so only 1 person can attack you at a time.

Unknown

Also point spreads are insane. It's stupid to be attacked for 35 and only retaliate for 9

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tcourtney wrote:

SirKopath wrote:

tcourtney wrote:

I wish they would just make it so the defense team could not actually lose points, just the winning team gaining points that way. Coming out of a win to a -90 + is just pathetic and utter ****. Having close to 500pts and 5min later having 234 just pisses me off to no end...what exactly is FUN about that?

This doesn't work. If you can't lose points, then the game becomes a total grind fest, and whomever can play the most and sleep the least wins.

Works better than 15 teams hitting you in the time you can hit 1...how the fudge is that fair?

As it is now I can play during a tourney and then shield at the 8 or 3 hour mark so I don't spend too much HP. It's quite easy to get top 50 like this, although top 10 always is a shield off/on battle in the last hour.

I do agree the system isn't great that you can get hit for a mass amount, but i don't agree that your suggestion is better.

I'd prefer a diminishing returns system of lost points, when you get hit, you lose the full amount, then for each additional hit you lose less. However the byproduct of this would be MUCH higher point levels at the top end, leading to higher progression point levels, so I'm not sure this is even a great idea. I'm wary of any system that allows someone with more time to win, the game is already time consuming as it is.

edit: numbers

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Oletheos wrote:

Also point spreads are insane. It's stupid to be attacked for 35 and only retaliate for 9

Yeah, this bothers me a fair bit.

- Roster (avg level 100) gets hit for 41 points
- Look at attacker... avg level 130, worth 3 points
- ...skips

The game is suceeding in it's objective of making you terrified of not having a shield though, so I doubt the mechanism will change.

Slarow

Oletheos wrote:

I wish there was a way that when your attacked the game takes you out of anyone else's Que then once the fight is over you gi back in so only 1 person can attack you at a time.

This change would make it so 0 people can attack you at a time, not 1. It also would be a free shield, just start a match and don't end it.

Slarow

tcourtney wrote:

SirKopath wrote:

tcourtney wrote:

I wish they would just make it so the defense team could not actually lose points, just the winning team gaining points that way. Coming out of a win to a -90 + is just pathetic and utter ****. Having close to 500pts and 5min later having 234 just pisses me off to no end...what exactly is FUN about that?

This doesn't work. If you can't lose points, then the game becomes a total grind fest, and whomever can play the most and sleep the least wins.

Works better than 15 teams hitting you in the time you can hit 1...how the fudge is that fair?

You are being retaliated against for all the attacks you made earlier. Remember that every time you attack in your grind up to the top, you are opening yourself up to a retaliation. Also remember that you are not the only one playing at the end of the tourney to get the top spot. There are 1000 other players in your bracket, if only 1/3 of them are competitive and playing at the end, you are up against 333 other people, many of whom are better than you. Not everyone gets top 10, as much as people feel their work deserves it.

The game has shields, which puts it miles ahead of another marvel game I play where that mechanic does not exist, and you have no choice but to get pounded at the end of a tourney.