Excess Mana Runes

Outersider
Outersider Posts: 119 Tile Toppler
in MtGPQ General Discussion
I know I'm not the only one that has an excess of Mana Runes that I currently will never exhaust.... Should there be a way to convert mana runes to mana orbs now that booster crafting is coming..... say 1000 runes for 1 orb?   I personally have over 1.6 runes that are unused...........
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  • Outersider
    Outersider Posts: 119 Tile Toppler
    Thats 1.6 million
  • asm0deus
    asm0deus Posts: 73 Match Maker
    Conversion of mana runes would be nice. But not only to orbs. Maybe crystals or jewels too. Crystals would be nice to get that PW you could be missing.
  • ZW2007-
    ZW2007- Posts: 812 Critical Contributor
    I support runes converting to orbs/crystals/jewels as long as the cost is insanely high. It would be silly for players to eventually hit 8 figure rune counts.
  • khurram
    khurram Posts: 1,090 Chairperson of the Boards
    1000 runes to 1 orb?
    1.6 million to 1600 orbs.

    You want to exchange your 1.6 million runes for less than half a mythic?
  • Ohboy
    Ohboy Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    khurram said:
    1000 runes to 1 orb?
    1.6 million to 1600 orbs.

    You want to exchange your 1.6 million runes for less than half a mythic?

    People are rejoicing over exchanging 10 mythics for 1 because the 10 mythics are next to worthless. 

    Similar concept here.

    Nevertheless, I think it's a horrible idea and shouldn't be implemented. 
  • sjechua
    sjechua Posts: 173 Tile Toppler
    How about 500 Runes for 10 Orbs? So 1,000,000 Runes = 20,000 Orbs.
  • ZW2007-
    ZW2007- Posts: 812 Critical Contributor
    I'm fine with them not adding this function but I would like to see something in place to allow for a limitless rune-sink. Another option would be unlimited, rune-purchased deck slots. Each additional slot beyond the first 45k could cost an extra X amount of runes. There needs to be some way for players with massive rune counts to deplete their reserves if they so choose.
  • span_argoman
    span_argoman Posts: 751 Critical Contributor
    Considering the fact that dupes will now be converted into both Runes and Orbs in the new system, it's quite safe to say that we shouldn't expect a conversion system from Runes to anything anytime soon.
    sjechua said:
    How about 500 Runes for 10 Orbs? So 1,000,000 Runes = 20,000 Orbs.
    That's actually 2,000 Orbs for 1,000,000 Runes.
  • julianus
    julianus Posts: 188 Tile Toppler
    edited December 2017
    I don't consider runes to really be an "asset", as such, regardless of the number some people have accumulated. You get them for literally every round you play in every mode, and they were only used for levelling PWs until the option to buy a deck slot with them was added (during the time I've been playing, anyway, not sure if it was different in the first year).

    If they'd created a system where PWs automatically gained a level for every 20 fights, no one would be asking to buy things with all of the extra fights they'd played after maxing PW levels.

    That's pretty much what runes are, a tally of total playtime, and I don't think it's necessary to start creating new uses for them simply because of imagined wealth. The game doesn't need a new currency, and I'd rather see the developers and designers spending their time and effort on addressing core game play elements than trying to balance out one more exchange system.

  • Froggy
    Froggy Posts: 511 Critical Contributor
    Considering We just saw our first 3 color PW released, and the cost to level him up is high, there may yet be a time when runes will be needed. Also note that getting more runes is something that has been factored into booster crafting when converting your dupes - into orbs AND runes. I could care less either way about having excess runes. But I think you could never go wrong if you continued to have a large stash of runes for the future. Just saying.
  • sjechua
    sjechua Posts: 173 Tile Toppler
    span_argoman said:
    Considering the fact that dupes will now be converted into both Runes and Orbs in the new system, it's quite safe to say that we shouldn't expect a conversion system from Runes to anything anytime soon.
    sjechua said:
    How about 500 Runes for 10 Orbs? So 1,000,000 Runes = 20,000 Orbs.
    That's actually 2,000 Orbs for 1,000,000 Runes.
    Hmm no, 500 for 10, 50 for 1
  • span_argoman
    span_argoman Posts: 751 Critical Contributor
    sjechua said:
    span_argoman said:
    Considering the fact that dupes will now be converted into both Runes and Orbs in the new system, it's quite safe to say that we shouldn't expect a conversion system from Runes to anything anytime soon.
    sjechua said:
    How about 500 Runes for 10 Orbs? So 1,000,000 Runes = 20,000 Orbs.
    That's actually 2,000 Orbs for 1,000,000 Runes.
    Hmm no, 500 for 10, 50 for 1

    Oh yeah my bad, that would be 20,000. Though for the reasons mentioned in this thread, it is unlikely to happen. I'm fine with Runes being just for levelling planeswalkers.

  • khurram
    khurram Posts: 1,090 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited December 2017
    Ohboy said:
    khurram said:
    1000 runes to 1 orb?
    1.6 million to 1600 orbs.

    You want to exchange your 1.6 million runes for less than half a mythic?

    People are rejoicing over exchanging 10 mythics for 1 because the 10 mythics are next to worthless. 

    Similar concept here.

    Nevertheless, I think it's a horrible idea and shouldn't be implemented. 
    Yes but I actually don't see runes as completely useless now. They are always going to release new PWs and having excess runes means that I'll never have to grind to just level them up.  


    Besides, there are hours of QB spent on accumulating those runes.  :)
  • blacklotus
    blacklotus Posts: 589 Critical Contributor
    1 million runes isn't much if one so intends to spend: 45k per deck slot + 160k for a dual color pw. = 205k runes

    1 million runes is only sufficient for 4 dual color pw.
    one nwe card set usually comes with 3 pw on average.

    those of us with runes in 7 digits or more are mostly from the time we grinded quick battles.
  • hawkyh1
    hawkyh1 Posts: 780 Critical Contributor
    they can implement runes to pay for luxuries? maybe
    implement an additional charge held on nodes to
    cost x runes per event?

    HH

  • babar3355
    babar3355 Posts: 1,128 Chairperson of the Boards
    I think they should offer packs for runes.  50,000-100k runes for a premium pack?
  • Furordraco
    Furordraco Posts: 142 Tile Toppler
    to be honest this would go too much to the benefit of veteran players. New players would be confused and risk of not using the runes to level up their pw, because of a chance to craft some cards. I think runes are enough for pws and deck slots. Eventually you could use them for currency for some kind of new event. But thats just an idea i have.
  • Gunmix25
    Gunmix25 Posts: 1,442 Chairperson of the Boards
    Froggy said:
    Considering We just saw our first 3 color PW released, and the cost to level him up is high, there may yet be a time when runes will be needed. Also note that getting more runes is something that has been factored into booster crafting when converting your dupes - into orbs AND runes. I could care less either way about having excess runes. But I think you could never go wrong if you continued to have a large stash of runes for the future. Just saying.

    My thoughts mirror yours. 1.6 million runes is a lot, but it cost almost 25% of that total to level Bolas. That is an impressive chunk of runes. I suspect the cost to level increase is Oktagon's doing in trying to find some balance. If so, then these runes will be much needed as new planeswalkers are released.


  • Outersider
    Outersider Posts: 119 Tile Toppler
    With the dupes converting to both orbs and runes.... those of us with an excess of runes are actually not receiving anything useful. I set the rate high because I don't expect that they truly are worth much, but something.... anything is better than nothing.... And as an ex computer programmer I can tell you programming a convert button is not a lot of lines of code....  It is just sort of worthless to do all the events and not receive anything of value for the runes. I acknowledge this is a great system for those joining the game.... but for those of us who have sustained the game a little reward for our loyalty would be nice.... 
  • Gunmix25
    Gunmix25 Posts: 1,442 Chairperson of the Boards
    Outersider said:
    With the dupes converting to both orbs and runes.... those of us with an excess of runes are actually not receiving anything useful. I set the rate high because I don't expect that they truly are worth much, but something.... anything is better than nothing.... And as an ex computer programmer I can tell you programming a convert button is not a lot of lines of code....  It is just sort of worthless to do all the events and not receive anything of value for the runes. I acknowledge this is a great system for those joining the game.... but for those of us who have sustained the game a little reward for our loyalty would be nice.... 

    Runes don't have immediate value when earned unless you're leveling a PW.

    Crystals don't have an immediate value when earned unless you're buying boosters or PW

    Jewels don't have an immediate value when earned unless you're buying Elite packs

    Orbs don't have an immediate value unless you're crafting a booster


    which leads to:


    If you don't spend your jewels:

    -- you don't get any mythics or masterpieces or (deity forbid) rares

    -- you don't get any orbs from any duplicates

    If you don't spend your Crystals:

    -- you don't get any booster packs

    -- if you don't get any booster packs, then you don't get any orbs from duplicates

    -- you don't get any PW

    -- if you don't get any new PWs, then you don't get to spend your runes leveling them

    -- you cannot play TotP (in this case, platinum)

    -- If you cannot play Totp then you don't get any jewels and crystals.

    If you don't spend your Orbs:

    -- you don't get to craft a booster for a guaranteed non-duplicated card

    If you don't spend your Runes:

    -- You don't get to level your PW.


     


    I think that the value of anything in this game is subjective to how you plan to use it. If you don't use it, then it has no value but there is a way to spend it. This now includes duplicates.

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