Scaling

mhorham

I have a fairly welldeveloped 4* roster wth currently no deveoped 5*s. If i champion one 5* will it affect my scaling.
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vinsensual

I have a champed Peter Parker, with a couple 4s in the 290s.  4* pvp events could have different MMRs, but even ignoring those, I mostly see double boosted 4s on my climbs.  Sometimes Rocket/Gamora/Medusa or a Carol/whoever.  When I get high enough in points I start to see single 5s and boosted 4s, and in the case of this 4* PVP where I have a champed gamora, double 5s.

Milk Jugz

The general consensus among my alliance mates is 1 champ 5 isn't going to affect your MMR badly. Once you get 2 though, all you'll see is dual champ 5 teams.

DarthDeVo

Your MMR in PvP will likely change. I have 35 or 36 champed 4*s, highest at Level 302. I champed my first 5* recently and I went from seeing teams of one or two champed 4*s or maybe an unchamped 5* (plus the featured 3*) to teams of one low-level champ 5* (usually around Level 460 or less, like my 458) and moderately champed 4* or two moderate- or high-level champed 4*s. And a whole range of teams within those parameters. 

So I have to rely pretty heavily on my champed 5*, but it's Daredevil and that guy was made for climbing in PvP, so it's not all bad. 

broll

Milk Jugz said:

The general consensus among my alliance mates is 1 champ 5 isn't going to affect your MMR badly. Once you get 2 though, all you'll see is dual champ 5 teams.

As someone who just champed 2 in the last weekish, that seems correct.  I started seeing nothing but 5* teams when my first champ was 453 and my soon to champ passed 425-430 somewhere.  That day or so was pretty rough, but once he was fully champed I was able to compete with most (expect the gambit teams).  I'd recommend champing your second in one go.

Jarvind

You'll see a change. You won't get thrown headfirst into full-blown 5* territory, but the majority of your matchups will be a champed 5 paired with a boosted champed 4, or a pair of not-quite-champed 5s. You can still get away with using two boosted 4s for the early climb, but you'll pretty much  have to use your 5* anywhere above 400ish.

Personally, with the preponderance of Gambits out there now, I wouldn't recommend touching 5* territory at all unless you have your own Gambit, or a pair of upper-echelon 5*s ready to go. He'll absolutely crush you most of the time if you're using a 4* team or a single low-grade 5*.

Kevin61

DarthDeVo said:

Your MMR in PvP will likely change. I have 35 or 36 champed 4*s, highest at Level 302. I champed my first 5* recently and I went from seeing teams of one or two champed 4*s or maybe an unchamped 5* (plus the featured 3*) to teams of one low-level champ 5* (usually around Level 460 or less, like my 458) and moderately champed 4* or two moderate- or high-level champed 4*s. And a whole range of teams within those parameters. 

So I have to rely pretty heavily on my champed 5*, but it's Daredevil and that guy was made for climbing in PvP, so it's not all bad. 

I am pretty much in the same situation.  I have 47 champed 4*'s and just recently champed my first 5* - OML.  My highest 4* champ is Coulson at 309.  As soon as I had OML champed, almost every opponent in PVP had at least one champed 5* so I think that my climb to 2000 for the 4* cover in PVP this season is going to be a bit tougher.  Haven't noticed much of a change in PVE though.

Bowgentle

Kevin61 said:

DarthDeVo said:

Your MMR in PvP will likely change. I have 35 or 36 champed 4*s, highest at Level 302. I champed my first 5* recently and I went from seeing teams of one or two champed 4*s or maybe an unchamped 5* (plus the featured 3*) to teams of one low-level champ 5* (usually around Level 460 or less, like my 458) and moderately champed 4* or two moderate- or high-level champed 4*s. And a whole range of teams within those parameters. 

So I have to rely pretty heavily on my champed 5*, but it's Daredevil and that guy was made for climbing in PvP, so it's not all bad. 

I am pretty much in the same situation.  I have 47 champed 4*'s and just recently champed my first 5* - OML.  My highest 4* champ is Coulson at 309.  As soon as I had OML champed, almost every opponent in PVP had at least one champed 5* so I think that my climb to 2000 for the 4* cover in PVP this season is going to be a bit tougher.  Haven't noticed much of a change in PVE though.

Levels in PVE are fixed, based on the CL you choose.

The abomination that was roster based scaling in PVE is gone.

tanis3303

Bowgentle said:

Levels in PVE are fixed, based on the CL you choose.

The abomination that was roster based scaling in PVE is gone.

Heh. Yea, until events like 12 Days of Xmas or a 24 hours into a boss event...