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aesthetocyst
aesthetocyst Posts: 538 Critical Contributor
edited May 2018 in MPQ General Discussion
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  • Daiches
    Daiches Posts: 1,252 Chairperson of the Boards
    139 to 140... 6400 xp, 70,000 ISO 
  • GigerHR
    GigerHR Posts: 54 Match Maker
    128 to 129, 5,675 xp, 65,000 iso
  • Hendross
    Hendross Posts: 762 Critical Contributor
    Insta 200 bonus = 6,380,000
  • LifeofAgony
    LifeofAgony Posts: 690 Critical Contributor
    140 to 141 - 6450xp - 1,012,500 iso bonus.
  • Hadronic
    Hadronic Posts: 338 Mover and Shaker
    since you have all this data @aesthetocyst
    could we get the Iso/XP ratio as a function of CL?
  • pheregas
    pheregas Posts: 1,721 Chairperson of the Boards
    129 to 130 - 5675 xp - 65k iso bonus
  • Hadronic
    Hadronic Posts: 338 Mover and Shaker
    aesthetocyst said:
    Hadronic said:
    since you have all this data @aesthetocyst
    could we get the Iso/XP ratio as a function of CL?
    Of course! I could post the projected stuff but would rather hold off and collect and post the actuals. But if you'd be interested in seeing the projection, and eventual comparison to the actual, I can post the projection tonight.
    no rush, present the data as you see best

  • ursopro
    ursopro Posts: 334 Mover and Shaker
    166>167, 8575xp, 87,500 iso
  • Stax the Foyer
    Stax the Foyer Posts: 941 Critical Contributor
    142 -> 143, 6600 XP, 72,500 ISO
  • Moon Roach
    Moon Roach Posts: 2,863 Chairperson of the Boards
    126 to 127, 5475 XP, 65000 ISO. 
  • Moon Roach
    Moon Roach Posts: 2,863 Chairperson of the Boards
    127 to 128, 5550 XP, 65000 ISO.
  • robertbah
    robertbah Posts: 124 Tile Toppler
    LifeofAgony said:
    140 to 141 - 6450xp - 1,012,500 iso bonus.
    The iso reward is 72500 for this level
  • craig88
    craig88 Posts: 7 Just Dropped In
    edited November 2017
    So, it looks like you can do the 3-color 1*s until ~146 (1300 Iso/120xp=11.111...) and the 2-colors until ~152 (1000Iso/90xp=10.8333...) based on these projections, right?
  • Moon Roach
    Moon Roach Posts: 2,863 Chairperson of the Boards

    I'm back and forth over this all the time.  Right now I'm thinking that I should sell all the 1* rather than use them for XP.  Because every 100 ISO I lose from selling for XP is 100 ISO less that the new rank is worth to me.  If I deny myself 10000 ISO to gain 50000 ISO a little earlier, I'll not do that and just be patient.

    But it's an odd-numbered day.  Tomorrow I'll have a different point of view.

  • broll
    broll Posts: 4,732 Chairperson of the Boards
    Just out of curiosity.  Has anyone done the math to determine if a 2* champ farm is still the best value or it it's actually better to just roster, add covers, and sell with no ISO spend?
  • broll
    broll Posts: 4,732 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited November 2017
    OJSP said:
    broll said:
    Just out of curiosity.  Has anyone done the math to determine if a 2* champ farm is still the best value or it it's actually better to just roster, add covers, and sell with no ISO spend?
    The 2* farm is different, because of the champion rewards.
    I realize that.  But it's technically possible that it's more gainful not to champ anymore with the change.  It's highly unlikely but I haven't done the math and wondering if anyone has.  It might be an increase to ISO income at the cost of some HP, 3* covers, and HTs which is a trade off most people would take I'd think.
  • broll
    broll Posts: 4,732 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited November 2017
    OJSP said:
    Sorry. I had to check the numbers and accidentally posted it. I’ve edited the post with the numbers as you were posting yours.
    OJSP said:

    Having said that, selling a fully covered lvl 15 2* can still be profitable, but a lot less than the 1*s: we are swapping 3000 iso for 180 xp or 16.7 iso for 1 xp. 
    That's not the math I'm thinking off.  I'm thinking of 2* championing is a slight ISO gain at best, slight loss at worst.  It may be more profitable to not waste that ISO.  To figure that out someone would have to analyst the ISO gains/loss of champing compared to rostering to 13 those same covers and selling them without champing or leveling.  So the XP gain from 63 covers (4.84 13 covered 2*s) XP gain vs the ISO gain of championing, which isn't much and some argue is a loss.

    I'm just wondering how much the ISO gain from XP would be.  If it's not insignificant and ISO is worth forgoing the champ rewards it might be a better farm.

    Nvm, I did the math, yeah champ is way better.  XP gained from rostering and selling 63 covers is just under 900 XP.  The champ levels XP for 1 2* (those same 63 covers) is 2000 XP.  only 500 XP.  It might be better ISO wise to roster and sell without champing...
  • Chipster22
    Chipster22 Posts: 299 Mover and Shaker
    130 -> 131  5750 XP to get 67,500 ISO
  • broll
    broll Posts: 4,732 Chairperson of the Boards
    To not derail from this thread I started my own:
    https://forums.d3go.com/discussion/68775/is-it-now-more-iso-effective-to-2-farm-without-champing/p1?new=1

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