Dormammu said: The 80s were awesome. The very-early 90s were ok. Then there was a few years of sludge when all the 'hot' artists decided they wanted to try plotting or writing (see: founding of Image). Things self-corrected by the year 2000.During that time Chris Claremont made two mistakes. The first was Gambit. The second was that X-Treme X-Men nonsense.
The one problem I had with Gambit was a question that my friend asked me. "So why does when he charge up cards they explode when they hit something, but when he charges up his bow it never explodes?"
Dormammu said: I think everyone is being civil to one another, Ducky. We may not be civil to Gambit, but that's okay - he's a fictional character.
STOPTHIS said: Well, first off of course there's a middle ground. They just don't say anything.
Jabrony Geoff said: ...because he's massively overrated.Whoop de do, let me throw some charged cards here; let me throw some charged cards there.Gambit = Thumbs down
Jarvind said: Jabrony Geoff said: ...because he's massively overrated.Whoop de do, let me throw some charged cards here; let me throw some charged cards there.Gambit = Thumbs down I mean, you could say that about any character though. "Oooh wolverine, he has claws and he heals, whoopty doo."
Kishida said: White_Deth said: Kishida said: I think everybody else has mostly covered it, but... awkward 90s-style contrived "cool guy," skeezy as all hell, cartoonish accent as shorthand for character development (one of Claremont's worst, laziest tendencies), ridiculous costume, goofy powers (seriously, playing cards?!?). To me, he's basically the Poochie of the X-Men. Granted, there were worse characters to follow, but for some inexplicable reason, Gambit got kind of grandfathered in to iconic status. His power is the ability to charge anything with energy. He peraonally uses playing cards as his go to because, well he likes gambling. He can even charge himself making him able to sustain large impacts and charge his staff. He doea it to much he does need to rest. I mean id love the fact i could prwtty much make a deadly exploaive decice out of a piece of paper lol I understand that he can charge anything with energy. The fact that out of all potential options, they went with playing cards, that's what strikes me as goofy. Talking about the Distinguished Competition here, but that always felt like the huge failing of Green Lantern: dude can create anything he can think of, and it turns out he's not much of a thinker.
White_Deth said: Kishida said: I think everybody else has mostly covered it, but... awkward 90s-style contrived "cool guy," skeezy as all hell, cartoonish accent as shorthand for character development (one of Claremont's worst, laziest tendencies), ridiculous costume, goofy powers (seriously, playing cards?!?). To me, he's basically the Poochie of the X-Men. Granted, there were worse characters to follow, but for some inexplicable reason, Gambit got kind of grandfathered in to iconic status. His power is the ability to charge anything with energy. He peraonally uses playing cards as his go to because, well he likes gambling. He can even charge himself making him able to sustain large impacts and charge his staff. He doea it to much he does need to rest. I mean id love the fact i could prwtty much make a deadly exploaive decice out of a piece of paper lol
Kishida said: I think everybody else has mostly covered it, but... awkward 90s-style contrived "cool guy," skeezy as all hell, cartoonish accent as shorthand for character development (one of Claremont's worst, laziest tendencies), ridiculous costume, goofy powers (seriously, playing cards?!?). To me, he's basically the Poochie of the X-Men. Granted, there were worse characters to follow, but for some inexplicable reason, Gambit got kind of grandfathered in to iconic status.
He went with playing cards because they're cheap, easily carried, and can charge almost instantly. Smaller the object the faster it can be charged.
That shouldn't change your opinion of a character but there was reasoning behind the weapon of choice.
smkspy said: csista said: I definitely think a large part of the animosity is resentment towards his fans. When someone says Gambit is their favorite character, you get the feeling they haven't read a single comic in the last 20 years while you stuck around and they're kind of posing as a fan. Like if you asked them how they felt when Gambit was a horseman of Apocalypse, they would say, "No way! He was a horseman of Apocalypse? Cool!" Kind of makes you want to ignore any opinion they have about the character. No way! Gambit was a horseman of apocalypse!!!!Just kidding, but yours and mega ghost attitudes are those very worst comic culture attributes also. That if you haven't kept up constantly with a character or title, know every single arc of them, then you are not a "true fan" or any opinion you may have of character isn't valid. Which I guess that I would fall into your category since I quit buying single issues in 2010, and still a fan of the character but pretty ignorant of his status of the last 7 years.People with those attitudes made me loathe going into the comic shop every Wednesday for my weekly books or into a store when back issuing shopping. Type of "this my club" I know everything and look down upon you comic book neckbeard that it is literally impossible to have a conversation. Not saying that is either of you guys, but if you're gambit hater, then you're probably one of those guys.And I'm a Gambit fan by default being from Louisiana. That said, have never meet anyone from New Orleans with that accent. Lots of Cajun french in southwest louisiana, but even they don't speak in the Claremont-isms...but that was his style of writing.
csista said: I definitely think a large part of the animosity is resentment towards his fans. When someone says Gambit is their favorite character, you get the feeling they haven't read a single comic in the last 20 years while you stuck around and they're kind of posing as a fan. Like if you asked them how they felt when Gambit was a horseman of Apocalypse, they would say, "No way! He was a horseman of Apocalypse? Cool!" Kind of makes you want to ignore any opinion they have about the character.