(Discussion) Only Recent 5*s as essentials so far! Make people spend more or just the most fair way?

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  • CT1888
    CT1888 Posts: 1,201 Chairperson of the Boards
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    Is it possible that they have got the latest out of the way, and then they'll flip to the beginning to have OML and Pheonix lined up for during anniversary / mutant week?
    Maybe shift silver Surfer round to after them.

  • RemoDestroyer
    RemoDestroyer Posts: 277 Mover and Shaker
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    It feels as fair as it can be with a 5* essential node. So far the required 5*s were in tokens with the greatest chance of pulling a 5*. I feel it would have been less fair if a classic 5* was required and it was only available in classic tokens as they are now.

    I also don't feel this totally hurts hoarding. Until hours before webbed wonder started i didn't have 5* Daredevil. Minutes before the event started i decided to try and get a cover. I may have beat odds but it took me 5 attempts to get it. Now i can play the 5* essential and i can resume hoarding.
  • broll
    broll Posts: 4,732 Chairperson of the Boards
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    I also don't feel this totally hurts hoarding. Until hours before webbed wonder started i didn't have 5* Daredevil. Minutes before the event started i decided to try and get a cover. I may have beat odds but it took me 5 attempts to get it. Now i can play the 5* essential and i can resume hoarding.
    I had similar results.  I missed out on 5pidey feature and near the end of sub 1 with no Ock it was looking doubtful I'd hit T100 in SCL7 and would miss out on Rouge.  Pulled 10 latest and got 1 5pidey, 2 DD, & 1 Ock.  I may have 10 less to pull when I open my hoard before 5pidey leaves, but I also need  3 fewer 5* covers, so it should balance out.
  • Starfury
    Starfury Posts: 719 Critical Contributor
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    The problem with this line of reasoning is you can also pull 50 without getting the 5* you wanted ("only" a 7.5% chance to happen, but very well possible)

    And you'll need 70 pulls to have a 50/50 chance to get any specific classic 5* (or almost 40 pulls when using BH)
  • White_Deth
    White_Deth Posts: 63 Match Maker
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    Im a relatively newer player (1 year) and i have pulled over the course of that time every 5 star bar phoenix and widow crom classics with ghe exception of devil, ock and spidey. Infact i didnt keep most because i need the space for the growing 4 stars after vaulting. I have pulled 2 hulks, 2 bolts, 4 OML,  2 Thanos, 1 spidey, 3 BSS, 3 strange, 3 Hawkguy, 2 Surfer, 3 Cap, 1 Iron Man, 2 Surfer, 1 DD, 1 Ock, 1 Goblin, 1 Panther and 3 SL covers. I kinda regret not keeping some but hp wasnt flowing and i generally juat get pve progress rewards and placement as extras. Obly recently due to the anniversary have i been grinding hp. What that means to say is that unless your really new or just extremely u lucky its engirely possible to pull all of them and i dont have 100s of cp at a time either. 
  • mpqr7
    mpqr7 Posts: 2,642 Chairperson of the Boards
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    I'm not crazy about it since I'm a hoarder and don't have doc oc, Peter or dd, but I'll pull through somehow.
  • elvy75
    elvy75 Posts: 225 Tile Toppler
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    with xmen teamed anniversary, we should be able to see oml and phx as 5* required ? These 4 havent been easy for me, as no one has more than 4 covers, i wonder how bad that essential will be with championed 5*
  • Dragon_Nexus
    Dragon_Nexus Posts: 3,701 Chairperson of the Boards
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    Personally, I dont feel its fair. I recently opened 1000cp worth of latest tokens in an attempt to get Silver Surfer from the Cosmic Store. I got 4 Starlord's and that was it. In a system where theres no reliable way to get covers for 5*s, it cant possibly be fair having 5* nodes. 

    Did the same thing. Not as much CP because I don't want to burden myself with a 4* that I'd then need to champ, but I opened a bunch of legendaries and got an OML and a Spider Man. That was it.

    Soooo....yeah, Daredevil's the only 5* I don't have, so I'm stuffed here.
  • Spoit
    Spoit Posts: 3,441 Chairperson of the Boards
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    DAZ0273 said:
    rixmith said:
    With Star Lord they did put up the Cosmic store so the odds of pulling one were as good (or poor) as pulling from latest. If they run a weekly store that features the next 3 required 5*'s we'd at least have a chance to acquire a cover before they were essential. Without something like that getting a particular Classic 5* is pretty hopeless.
    If you follow this logically and consider those chosen follow a plan by the devs then it leads to this - The first six 5* Essentials should be Spider-Man, Daredevil & Doc Ock (3 latest) + Star Lord, Silver Surfer & Thanos (Cosmic store). So next one will probably Green Goblin or something...
    Nah, going by D3 logic, the required 5* for the gambit release tourney will be 5* gambit
  • Dartmaster01
    Dartmaster01 Posts: 634 Critical Contributor
    edited October 2017
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     In a system where theres no reliable way to get covers for 5*s, it cant possibly be fair having 5* nodes. 
    Personally, I can't agree with this enough. If they are not going to add some way of targeting 5*s then this node belongs in Deadpool Daily not regular pve.