nerf kaecilus

nyjoker

really this is insane. i have played him about 7 times now and he completely destroys all of my characters. last time they had strange sights he was tought but beatable. this time around i cant even get him to half his live and im using 5 star characters that are lv 330 and 4 and 3 level high characters in high 200 and still he just destroys me. i feel like im not playing a fun game but dark souls and makes me want to throw my phone against the wall. 

Warbringa

I have an alliance member in the same boat, failed 6 times straight.  There is a complete thread in the bug/glitches section but the devs are saying this is how they meant him to be....take that for what it is worth.

nyjoker

well that sucks big hairy ones. i bet if we all complain about it they will probably fix it 

Dragon_Nexus

Warbringa said:

I have an alliance member in the same boat, failed 6 times straight.  There is a complete thread in the bug/glitches section but the devs are saying this is how they meant him to be....take that for what it is worth.

That sounds an awful lot like winning is not the desired gamestate they're developing towards.

*wiggles eyebrows

Tony_Foot

He's fine, challenging and ok not in a interesting way but I used a 3 star team and ripped him a new one. I lost a lot on the first day with a 4 star team as I didn't read the changes but QS and hulk got the job done easily enough.

Landale

After reading some of the comments here I tried a Loki-Coulson-Patch team and it worked OK.  

I used Loki's Trickery ability to snag a few strike tiles and turn them into protect tiles, and of course for Mischief to try to keep Black AP away from him.  I used Coulson for tile swapping (and I used his yellow to help generate a little AP), and Patch created some enemy strike tiles.

I beat him, but it wasn't pretty.

acescracked

MPQ is hard.

smkspy

K doesn't need to be nerfed, but the damage that matching strike tiles hits him for needs an increase.

17 matches is just plain too many when he can easily start hitting you for several thousand of your HP within a few moves.

Make it 12 moves to beat him and it's still a challenging but doable fight.

And if he does stay this tough, the reward for beating him needs to have a serious increase. 10,000 iso or a LT type reward.

Wonko33

1st try - Patch - Kamala - Medusa (remember to put MEdusa yellow at 5 if you don't set it that way t usually , there is a whole thread of advise

DarthDeVo

I don't know who you're using, but you can't brute force your way through this fight. A high level character might be helpful for the health pool, but this fight demands using characters with some degree of board control or shake.

wymtime

smkspy said:

K doesn't need to be nerfed, but the damage that matching strike tiles hits him for needs an increase.

17 matches is just plain too many when he can easily start hitting you for several thousand of you HP within a moves.

Make it 12 moves to beat him and it's still a challenging but doable fight.

And if he does stay this tough, the reward for beating him needs to have a serious increase. 10,000 iso or a LT type reward.

I can't say it any better than this.  The number of strike tilesyou need to match compared to the damage he can do to him is way off.  In the original run it took about 8 strike tile matches to beat him.  17 makes brutal fights

jamesh

smkspy said:

K doesn't need to be nerfed, but the damage that matching strike tiles hits him for needs an increase.

What you've just described is a nerf.  Both in the sense that it effectively reduces his health, and that it reduces the chance of him using his black.

[I'm not arguing that it isn't necessary: this version of Kaecilius is horrible]

Milk Jugz

DarthDeVo said:

I don't know who you're using, but you can't brute force your way through this fight. A high level character might be helpful for the health pool, but this fight demands using characters with some degree of board control or shake.

I've beaten him twice, first attempt both times, with Phoenix, Hobo, and Bl4de. The only board shake they have is Phoenix purple and that's not always a given. If there is little red on the board adding 7 won't do much. I've found the fights difficult, but not impossible. I like it!! Too much is guaranteed in this game by just mindless grinding.....

Jedam

fight based on pure luck only, nothing else
you get the good match and he places the tiles at the good places, you win. or else you die, whatever your comp, your heroes, you level
stupid, pathetic job

Daiches

Jedam said:

fight based on pure luck only, nothing else
you get the good match and he places the tiles at the good places, you win. or else you die, whatever your comp, your heroes, you level
stupid, pathetic job

That's why you use tile swappers like Mr F, Coulson, QuickSilver..
This is one of the rare fights where PUZZLEquest actually has a bit of a puzzle.

Bunny

Mr.F+Agent Coulson+QS make Kaecilus almost trivial

zaku

Elektra+ patch/bullseye+ IM40  makes very short work of guyliner

MaxxPowerz

Mr F./Medusa/Miss Marvel

If you don't have the right characters I can see how it could be frustrating, but I had fun. I think it's appropriately challenging. Using other teams I lost twice, but I was able to get him within one match of death each time.

Elric_VIII

I'm using Medusa/Elektra/Patch:

3/5/5 Elektra tanks with Shadow Step and gives Kaecilius purple strike tiles.
5/3/5 Patch makes even more purple tiles. 
5/5/3 Medusa generates tons of green/purple and heals your team.

Unless you get very unlucky this team has great sustain and consistent damage. Remember to focus on matching away your special tiles for healing.

Tony_Foot

And this is why every pve should have a puzzle node like this to separate the brain off 5 star thanos clearers, from the people that can work the game and strategy out.

He should be part of the timer for a clear, people have become so used to clears in less than 30 minutes they fly off the handle when they get something that takes some thought.

But it's always the same, bit of challenge and it's terrible, chuck out a boss event you can finish before the 3rd refresh and it's hailed as the best event ever.

They should put rock hard nodes in every pve, ones you might not have the roster or smarts to complete, I'd rather have that than 100 people all on the same points trying for speed clears and optimum clears.

Wonko33

fight is hard but not impossible - for a single match like this no need to nerf imo .

It's not like they made the whole thing impossible and it would take hours to clear or anything. Try something else, face a little challenge, have fun