Will Daken ever be fixed?

matthatter
matthatter Posts: 151 Tile Toppler
edited August 2017 in MPQ Character Discussion
The title says it all. Will Daken ever be fixed so that all damage is done at once instead of hit me, do damage, create tiles (and inevitably match tiles), create strikes, get more damage for newly created strike tiles. It's good for him, as he now avoids getting damaged by my retaliations (i.e. 2* Storm), or avoidance (Spiderwoman). 

Just venting. I feel better now. But seriously, he's been broken for like 6+ mos w/ at least 2 promises that his fix will be in this update and that update.

Anyway, vote if you'd like. 

/endrant

Will Daken ever be fixed? 30 votes

yes
3%
MoosePrime 1 vote
no
63%
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He's broken?
33%
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Comments

  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 1,455 Chairperson of the Boards
    I agree that it's seriously annoying.

    "**** Daken used his blue! Oh wait no strikes, I'm ok."
    *2 green matches + cascade*
    "Well **** me then"
  • TPF Alexis
    TPF Alexis Posts: 3,826 Chairperson of the Boards
    He's broken?
    I always figured he was working properly now, since the resolution actually fits the order in the power's description perfectly. It does exactly what it says: 1) damage, 2) blue to green, 3) convert Strikes to damage.
  • Milk Jugz
    Milk Jugz Posts: 1,122 Chairperson of the Boards
    no
    @TPF Alexis

    The only thing I'll say is the power says it does 1, 2, AND 3. Not 1, 2, THEN 3. It should do everything all at once
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 1,455 Chairperson of the Boards
    Milk Jugz said:
    @TPF Alexis

    The only thing I'll say is the power says it does 1, 2, AND 3. Not 1, 2, THEN 3. It should do everything all at once
    I looked back at the 2 and 3* versions and you're correct. I prefer how it was before the bug (if it's even a bug) where everything happened at once.
  • Jarvind
    Jarvind Posts: 1,684 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited August 2017
    no
    Considering that the "fix" for Kingpin was "ignore it until we overhaul his black entirely," I'm going with no.

    The "damage happening as separate actions" issue is present in other characters still, too. If you have 2 opponents left and kill one with Bum Fist's green, you won't get the extra black AP - the first enemy dies, then he deals the bonus damage to the second.
  • matthatter
    matthatter Posts: 151 Tile Toppler
    no
    Jarvind said:
    Considering that the "fix" for Kingpin was "ignore it until we overhaul his black entirely," I'm going with no.

    The "damage happening as separate actions" issue is present in other characters still, too. If you have 2 opponents left and kill one with Bum Fist's green, you won't get the extra black AP - the first enemy dies, then he deals the bonus damage to the second.

    I'd honestly be ok with a rework of Daken. Something to make him a bit more useful.

  • hopper1979
    hopper1979 Posts: 565 Critical Contributor
    I like "bug" but it is not an issue because it is on his worst power .  It should technically do more damage this way you get the buff to the first set from the attack tiles that are on the board then from the removal.  I am not positive if that is the way it work because frankly I never use his blue he is a regen tile spammer 3/5/5 all the way.  His blue is only useful if you need to do a 1-2k damage at the end of the match.
  • matthatter
    matthatter Posts: 151 Tile Toppler
    no
    Jaedenkaal said:
    matthatter said:
    Jarvind said:
    Considering that the "fix" for Kingpin was "ignore it until we overhaul his black entirely," I'm going with no.

    The "damage happening as separate actions" issue is present in other characters still, too. If you have 2 opponents left and kill one with Bum Fist's green, you won't get the extra black AP - the first enemy dies, then he deals the bonus damage to the second.

    I'd honestly be ok with a rework of Daken. Something to make him a bit more useful.

    I do hate how useless free Strike tiles are.
    Cute. Not at all what I meant. I meant his true heal, nobody likes that. We all prefer burst healing. Such a worthless ability, true healing.
  • TPF Alexis
    TPF Alexis Posts: 3,826 Chairperson of the Boards
    He's broken?
    Milk Jugz said:
    @TPF Alexis

    The only thing I'll say is the power says it does 1, 2, AND 3. Not 1, 2, THEN 3. It should do everything all at once
    There also isn't anything in there saying it's simultaneous. Both would be perfectly valid implementations of that wording. It's at least not like Riri's red, where the bit that's described first actually happens last.
  • Jaedenkaal
    Jaedenkaal Posts: 3,357 Chairperson of the Boards
    no
    matthatter said:
    Jaedenkaal said:
    matthatter said:
    Jarvind said:
    Considering that the "fix" for Kingpin was "ignore it until we overhaul his black entirely," I'm going with no.

    The "damage happening as separate actions" issue is present in other characters still, too. If you have 2 opponents left and kill one with Bum Fist's green, you won't get the extra black AP - the first enemy dies, then he deals the bonus damage to the second.

    I'd honestly be ok with a rework of Daken. Something to make him a bit more useful.

    I do hate how useless free Strike tiles are.
    Cute. Not at all what I meant. I meant his true heal, nobody likes that. We all prefer burst healing. Such a worthless ability, true healing.
    I have some supporters of OBW you should probably talk to.
  • matthatter
    matthatter Posts: 151 Tile Toppler
    no
    Jaedenkaal said:
    matthatter said:
    Jaedenkaal said:
    matthatter said:
    Jarvind said:
    Considering that the "fix" for Kingpin was "ignore it until we overhaul his black entirely," I'm going with no.

    The "damage happening as separate actions" issue is present in other characters still, too. If you have 2 opponents left and kill one with Bum Fist's green, you won't get the extra black AP - the first enemy dies, then he deals the bonus damage to the second.

    I'd honestly be ok with a rework of Daken. Something to make him a bit more useful.

    I do hate how useless free Strike tiles are.
    Cute. Not at all what I meant. I meant his true heal, nobody likes that. We all prefer burst healing. Such a worthless ability, true healing.
    I have some supporters of OBW you should probably talk to.
    Touche!
  • hopper1979
    hopper1979 Posts: 565 Critical Contributor
    Ran into another reason the "glitch" is positive.  I had a game where a character was under 1k health, with the 2 step damage, the first character will killed and the big chunk, when the tiles are removed, when to the next active character.  That is a very nice effect glitch or not. :)
  • TPF Alexis
    TPF Alexis Posts: 3,826 Chairperson of the Boards
    He's broken?
    hopper1979 said:
    Ran into another reason the "glitch" is positive.  I had a game where a character was under 1k health, with the 2 step damage, the first character will killed and the big chunk, when the tiles are removed, when to the next active character.  That is a very nice effect glitch or not. :)
    Yep. I use it like that to hit two targets in DDQ all the time.

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