Mockingbird and Social Justice?

Savonti

I don't want to make this into a huge thing but I really think you guys should reconsider the cover/alternate "suit" for Mockingbird. Whatever side. I think Mocking bird is a great character and I love the art chosen for her in suit, I think she looks great but this Feminist Agenda one with the little purse dog...

We live in a world where one side or the other of an issue is always popping off about one thing or another. I just feel that Puzzle Quest probably isn't the place to take a stand for or against social justice; that maybe it can be a fun game where none of that matters.

Seriously please reconsider.

Thanks for your time.

 

Dormammu

I don't think MPQ or its developers are making a stand for or against anything, nor do I think using one cover in a sea of 100+ covers on a niche mobile game is the way they'd try to enact any sort of agenda.

I think the cover (very simply) accurately represents who Mockingbird is as a character.

JarvisJackrabbit

Maybe we'll see a Starfox release to balance it out.

broll

Savonti said:

I don't want to make this into a huge thing but I really think you guys should reconsider the cover/alternate "suit" for Mockingbird. Whatever side. I think Mocking bird is a great character and I love the art chosen for her in suit, I think she looks great but this Feminist Agenda one with the little purse dog...

We live in a world where one side or the other of an issue is always popping off about one thing or another. I just feel that Puzzle Quest probably isn't the place to take a stand for or against social justice; that maybe it can be a fun game where none of that matters.

Seriously please reconsider.

Thanks for your time.

 

I found the bolded statement ironic...  I'll leave it at that.

Savonti

broll said:

Savonti said:

I don't want to make this into a huge thing but I really think you guys should reconsider the cover/alternate "suit" for Mockingbird. Whatever side. I think Mocking bird is a great character and I love the art chosen for her in suit, I think she looks great but this Feminist Agenda one with the little purse dog...

We live in a world where one side or the other of an issue is always popping off about one thing or another. I just feel that Puzzle Quest probably isn't the place to take a stand for or against social justice; that maybe it can be a fun game where none of that matters.

Seriously please reconsider.

Thanks for your time.

 

I found the bolded statement ironic...  I'll leave it at that.

 You find it ironic that as a whole I approve of the character (with the exception of this alternate costume), or that I made a grammatical error?
 

 

granne

I assumed the irony was in commenting on her appearance and then complaining about her feminist agenda.

I'm just here to point out that Ka-zar is not a purse dog; he's a corgi. I wouldn't want to try to carry one of those in a purse. They're solid.

Savonti

Really, because I was clearly talking about art, power, and costume design. If that wasn't clear then that would be the aforementioned grammatical error.

Jaedenkaal

Probably best to avoid those, then, in a thread like this, wouldn't you say? Especially since this is not a grammatical error in your favour, if such a thing exists.

Savonti

Hear you guys loud and clear.

 Top shelf folks, have at it, I said my peace with the first message so, I'm out. 

sinnerjfl

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism

"Feminism is a range of political movements, ideologies, and social movements that share a common goal: to define, establish, and achieve political, economic, personal, and social rights for women.This includes seeking to establish educational and professional opportunities for women that are equal to such opportunities for men."

What exactly is offending about any of this? I'm not sure how you can be against equal rights...  ???

moss04

I think there's a case to be made that bringing politics or 'political movements' into the game can be be bad whether you agree with them or not.  People tend disagree and get into heated debates over such things, and I've definitely seen threads in the forums be shut down due to political disagreements.

Now, that being said, I don't necessarily think that this comic cover is bringing politics into the game.  Characters in marvel comics are complex characters with diverse details about them that we might not all agree or disagree with, but make them interesting.  I haven't read comics in maybe 5 or more years, but I recall reading Mark Millar's run of the Ultimates, where he wrote Captain America as being a bit of a conservative to more accurately reflect the "man out of time" aspect of the character, as someone who grew up in the 30's and 40's.  Some of this wasn't very political, like commenting on the way women dress these days or his taste in music.  Some of it was, like an instance where I believe his opponent was trying to convince him to give up and shouted something about "do think this A on my head stands for France?".  And some of it was in-between like taking matters into his own hand and beating up a spousal abuser.  I didn't necessarily agree with everything he did or said, but within the context of the story it made for an interesting character.  I'm not familiar with the current Mockingbird, but I think her wearing a shirt with a feminist slogan on it can simply be something interesting about the character regardless of whether one is a feminist, anti-feminist, or something in-between.

ErikPeter

This!

Also the shirt is tongue in cheek, it implies she has a feminist agenda and wants to be argumentative about it when in fact, she is just a woman character doing superhero stuff, and there's nothing substantial in content to argue--let alone be offended--about. There is no political message, if you are offended by it, tinykitty, take a deep breath and find something to get hot and bothered about besides a fictional character's T-shirt.

10_EFX_01

Wish we had the original Riri Williams cover

Stick

Yikes, some people need to lighten up. That shirt is hilarious.

finlanderboy

This is a game full of round complex characters.  The shirt represents her character.

Now there are tons of puzzle games you can play, but you are choosing to play one with diverse characters.  You have to expect this.  

If the opinion of an imaginary character bothers you in anyway you have problems beyond make believe people.

Tseb

finlanderboy said:

If the opinion of an imaginary character bothers you in anyway you have problems beyond make believe people.

  Santa Claus disagrees.

RebeccaQuan

If we're going to get rid of all the costumes that involve some kind of political message, does that mean we're gonna get Steve Rogers as Nomad? 

SpringSoldier

We should get naked characters, to make sure the costume doesn't bother anyone, of course

Wumpushunter

All the people disagreeing with OP bet me money they don't release 5 star nazi/Hydra Captain America, The Purple Man,  Emma Frost in her original costume. Certain statements can be made, while others will be hidden completely. Yes, comics have a wide range of complex characters but only a few in this game say anything and it's not a complex message it's a very simple one. 

Stick

A lot of characters represent complex social issues in sometimes overt manners, sometimes subtle ways. Denying that is doing a disservice to those characters. If you have an issue with a comedic t-shirt, I'm really curious how you feel about the x-men.