Pickleboar Bug? [Devs Aware]

theterran
theterran Posts: 1 Just Dropped In
edited January 2018 in MtGPQ Bugs & Technical Issues
I played Pickleboar and Giant Spectacle on it in one turn.
My opponent plays the J1 ability Confusion for -3 on it.
The following turn it attacks into a Filigree Familiar, and dies without dealing any damage whatsoever.  

Should it not have gotten +2 attack (making it a 4/4) and first strike on top of having Berserk and Trample which means the Familiar would have died and the boar not?

//Edited Title -Brigby

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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0 Just Dropped In
    I have screenshots available for Prickleboar
  • Laeuftbeidir
    Laeuftbeidir Posts: 1,841 Chairperson of the Boards
    sounds like Silverstrike was on the board!
  • wereotter
    wereotter Posts: 2,070 Chairperson of the Boards
    sounds like Silverstrike was on the board!
    Jace can't use Silverstrike ;)

    So had to write it all down to follow:

    Prickleboar is 3/3 that gets +2/+0 and first strike when blocked, check
    Giant Spectacle gives +2/+1 trample and berserker to the creature, so now you have 5/4 trample, berserker creature
    Jace's ability gives it -3/-0, so now it's a 2/4

    Filigree Familiar is a 4/4 defender

    When it attacks and is blocked it SHOULD get +2/+0 and first strike, making it a 4/4, so what you're saying makes sense.

    I'm left to wonder if this is an issue of berserker triggering before defender, and it doesn't consider the creature as being blocked. Have you tried using Giant Spectacle on Prickleboar in the past successfully against other creatures? Knowing how these things go in the game, I suspect it's entirely a bug revolving around giving that creature berserker.
  • hawkyh1
    hawkyh1 Posts: 780 Critical Contributor
    prickleboar is buggy. if it is blocked and gains +2/0
    and firststrike it will deal no damage on that turn
    and will just take damage.

    HH
  • Laeuftbeidir
    Laeuftbeidir Posts: 1,841 Chairperson of the Boards
    wereotter said:
    sounds like Silverstrike was on the board!
    Jace can't use Silverstrike ;)

    Uuuh...I knew something bothered me! Good point.

    I also like the rest of your approach:
    Will a berserker attaking a defender count as blocked, or has the berserker "priority"?

    Something that might be correlated: A god can't block nor attack (unless..); but it still will be targeted by creatures with berserker, so there might be a difference between "blocking"  and "getting attacked"?
  • hawkyh1
    hawkyh1 Posts: 780 Critical Contributor
    edited June 2017
    assembled alphas deal their if blocked damage
    when they are given berserker and attack a
    non defending creature. I think in the gods case,
    it needs to meet conditions to initiate the I can
    block process. but if the opponent forces it to
    block then that's ok. (never thought casting
    giant spectacle on an opponents creature could
    result in a 'go and commit suicide' next turn)

    HH
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0 Just Dropped In
    edited June 2017
    Let me rephrase "my screenshot" as the situation is not the same.

    Neck breaker triggered.

    Neck breaker atracks into a reinforced Shaman of the Pack

    Prickleboar triggered.

    Prickleboar attacks into reinforced Shaman of the Pack.

    Shaman of the Pack does 8 damage. Prickleboar only takes damage.

    Single player chapter two part two Kothophed soul hoarder

    Another instance in an event occurred but didnt take a screenshot but it was along the same lines from what I recall. Ever since then I don't use/cast Prickleboar. Keeping forgetting to edit my deck.

  • Snappyturtle
    Snappyturtle Posts: 133 Tile Toppler
    I just got this bug. Prickleboar with berserker seems to cause it to do no damage and receive 2 or 3 damage. I don't have brawlers plate but, can confirm that with Giant's Spectacle and Koths' 2nd gives the same self-damaging effect without doing any damage to an opposing creature.

    The +2/0 and first strike effect do trigger.
  • Brigby
    Brigby ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 7,757 Site Admin
    Hi Everyone. The QA team is aware of this, and there is an active bug report in our database.