Mjsleftglove said: Cloak and daggers black ability
Pwuz_ said: Mjsleftglove said: Cloak and daggers black ability That really only partially affects some passives. I think the OP was thinking something that would wholesale stop passives from working (temporarily.)Personally I've had the same thought more than a few times as well. I'd like it to be a double edged sword though that stops all passives (both friendly and enemies.)It honestly feels a little like something Taskmaster could bring to the table. Perhaps something that works like Peggy's yellow with a health threashold to maintain it. How much would that break the Meta?
Pwuz_ said: I think Kate may be a poor example. I see lots of unboosted characters in PvP, but Kate is hardly among them (even when she is boosted I don't see her much.)
Megdar said: Pwuz_ said: I think Kate may be a poor example. I see lots of unboosted characters in PvP, but Kate is hardly among them (even when she is boosted I don't see her much.) And this is exactly why it was a good example. She has a counter and you don't see her...When was the last time you seen some use Hero in PVP because of their Counter. I can think only of Peggy, if you count her Yellow as an Activated Ability counter...Star Lord, nope, Kate, countrary to you, I see her a lot, but only when boosted, her black hit like a train for 8.Elektra, as counter to Strike Tile, nope. Quake, even when boosted I don't see her, dmg being low for the cost. But her yellow is a great counter to AOE, but outside of boosted I will not bring her. Venom as counter to shield, nope. War Machine against invisibility, don't think so.Here, more example then just Kate.
Jaedenkaal said: Megdar said: Pwuz_ said: I think Kate may be a poor example. I see lots of unboosted characters in PvP, but Kate is hardly among them (even when she is boosted I don't see her much.) And this is exactly why it was a good example. She has a counter and you don't see her...When was the last time you seen some use Hero in PVP because of their Counter. I can think only of Peggy, if you count her Yellow as an Activated Ability counter...Star Lord, nope, Kate, countrary to you, I see her a lot, but only when boosted, her black hit like a train for 8.Elektra, as counter to Strike Tile, nope. Quake, even when boosted I don't see her, dmg being low for the cost. But her yellow is a great counter to AOE, but outside of boosted I will not bring her. Venom as counter to shield, nope. War Machine against invisibility, don't think so.Here, more example then just Kate. Very few of those examples are counters to passive abilities.