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shteev
shteev Posts: 2,031 Chairperson of the Boards
in MtGPQ General Discussion
Sphinx's Tutelage
Cast Out
Forsake the Worldly

You're welcome. Wake me when the next expansion comes out.

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  • Formulator
    Formulator Posts: 31 Just Dropped In
    Needs more War Oracle.
  • wereotter
    wereotter Posts: 2,070 Chairperson of the Boards
    Why bother with War Oracle when you can infinitely cycle Renewed Faith for life gain? ;)
  • Steeme
    Steeme Posts: 784 Critical Contributor
    Thanks Steve.  I decided to try 3.1 one last time with Dovin and cycling seems the way to go (albeit it is incredibly slow and tedious).  Sphinx is not necessary with Cast Out though.
  • arNero
    arNero Posts: 358 Mover and Shaker
    Oh yes, Cast Out is THE bomb in this set. If not because of that, Temmet would've been unbeatable.
  • shteev
    shteev Posts: 2,031 Chairperson of the Boards
    Amusingly, I beat 3.2 on the first try with this set up, despite the fact that I tired out Oketra's Attendant for the first time, and didn't realise that it's broken to the point where cycling it does literally nothing. Not sure if 3.2 has any support removal in his deck, but he wouldn't have been able to cast it, even if he did.

    PRO-TIP: To avoid having to outrace your opponent with Tutelage every single turn, try casting Censor every now and again.

    **** it cycling is boring to play, tho. Maybe it would be a little less tedious if I had a Drake Haven? How are y'all Draven players finding cycling?

  • Formulator
    Formulator Posts: 31 Just Dropped In
    edited May 2017
    Remember when JC was like "Lawl I can beat Exquisite Archangel in like 3 turns with lol Aether Heart loop"?
    He strikes again...

  • Ohboy
    Ohboy Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    Formulator said:
    Remember when JC was like "Lawl I can beat Exquisite Archangel in like 3 turns with lol Aether Heart loop"?
    He strikes again...


    Could also be done with just the humble pummeler, but that doesn't sound outragey enough. 
  • shteev
    shteev Posts: 2,031 Chairperson of the Boards
    Ohboy said:
    Formulator said:
    Remember when JC was like "Lawl I can beat Exquisite Archangel in like 3 turns with lol Aether Heart loop"?
    He strikes again...
    Could also be done with just the humble pummeler, but that doesn't sound outragey enough. 
    Just pummeler, eh? To deal 392 damage in 3 turns? Sweet deck!
  • Infested
    Infested Posts: 98 Match Maker
    Drake haven has made 3.1 and 3.2 trivial. I also have new perspectives. Often I can get a 70/70 drake on turn 3.
  • Ohboy
    Ohboy Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    shteev said:
    Ohboy said:
    Formulator said:
    Remember when JC was like "Lawl I can beat Exquisite Archangel in like 3 turns with lol Aether Heart loop"?
    He strikes again...
    Could also be done with just the humble pummeler, but that doesn't sound outragey enough. 
    Just pummeler, eh? To deal 392 damage in 3 turns? Sweet deck!

    4 turns, and it was hard, not impossible. Just like JC said it was supposed to be. 

    Again, you're not stupid. So you have to know what I'm saying. You're just deliberately misleading as usual for God knows what reason. 
  • shteev
    shteev Posts: 2,031 Chairperson of the Boards
    Ohboy said:
    shteev said:
    Ohboy said:
    Formulator said:
    Remember when JC was like "Lawl I can beat Exquisite Archangel in like 3 turns with lol Aether Heart loop"?
    He strikes again...
    Could also be done with just the humble pummeler, but that doesn't sound outragey enough. 
    Just pummeler, eh? To deal 392 damage in 3 turns? Sweet deck!

    4 turns, and it was hard, not impossible. Just like JC said it was supposed to be. 

    Again, you're not stupid. So you have to know what I'm saying. You're just deliberately misleading as usual for God knows what reason. 
    No, I think my point is pretty clear, actually. Formulator there is saying that you'd need a deck based on mythics to beat Exquisite Archangel. You, on the other hand, seem to be implying that you can do it with a deck with nothing more rare than the humble Electrostatic Pummeler. Why not post the deck so we can see for ourselves just how much raw power you needed in it to deal all that damage in 4 turns.
  • bernychan
    bernychan Posts: 2 Just Dropped In
    Hummm i don't get it.. its a combo or what?
  • Ohboy
    Ohboy Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited May 2017
    I shteev said:
    Ohboy said:
    shteev said:
    Ohboy said:
    Formulator said:
    Remember when JC was like "Lawl I can beat Exquisite Archangel in like 3 turns with lol Aether Heart loop"?
    He strikes again...
    Could also be done with just the humble pummeler, but that doesn't sound outragey enough. 
    Just pummeler, eh? To deal 392 damage in 3 turns? Sweet deck!

    4 turns, and it was hard, not impossible. Just like JC said it was supposed to be. 

    Again, you're not stupid. So you have to know what I'm saying. You're just deliberately misleading as usual for God knows what reason. 
    No, I think my point is pretty clear, actually. Formulator there is saying that you'd need a deck based on mythics to beat Exquisite Archangel. You, on the other hand, seem to be implying that you can do it with a deck with nothing more rare than the humble Electrostatic Pummeler. Why not post the deck so we can see for ourselves just how much raw power you needed in it to deal all that damage in 4 turns.

    Oh you're seriously going all in with this. 

    Formulator was implying JC needed the very broken nigh infinite turn Aether Heart to win in 4 turns. He mentioned literally one mythic. The heart. He mentions nothing about other mythics, but specifically talks about the loop. 

    Stop shifting the goal posts. 

  • ynvoKK
    ynvoKK Posts: 14 Just Dropped In
    edited May 2017
    shteev said:
    How are y'all Draven players finding cycling?


  • Magog
    Magog Posts: 106 Tile Toppler
    shteev said:

    tinykitty it cycling is boring to play, tho. Maybe it would be a little less tedious if I had a Drake Haven? How are y'all Draven players finding cycling?


    I won't say it trivialises battles (can still get a bad hand or an opponent with tons of support removal), but... Drake Haven + New Perspectives with Tezzeret, DH/NP with Saheeli, DH/NP with Kiora, DH/NP with Dovin Baan... For me, Dovin is now my preferred PW in Standard:

    Creatures:
    Shimmerscale Drake

    Supports:
    Drake Haven
    New Perspectives
    Fetid Pools
    Cast Out
    Sphinx's Tutelage

    Spells:
    Floodwaters
    Forsake the Worldly
    Renewed Faith
    Compelling Argument

    Absurd ramping of drake tokens, support destruction, creature lockdown, easy cycling of cards to find the ones you need, and comparatively easy to obtain since there're only two essential rares and no mythics.
  • Rogan_Josh
    Rogan_Josh Posts: 140 Tile Toppler
    I just beat 3.1 and 3.2 using Origins quality creatures. 

    Avaricious Dragon
    Abbot of Keral Keep
    Harbringer
    Baral

    Turn to frog
    Unlicensed Disintegration
    talent of the Telepath
    Winds of Rebuke

    Insidious Will
    Sword of the Animist

    It's pretty janky but i had an answer every turn. 

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