Zyrook said: It probably helps her exposure that she's the best you can pull from LT tokens right now. Medusa is a contender to be sure, but she's damage over time who's simply a nuisance if you keep her CD from being matching or bring people who counter her tile generation. Blade spams Attack tiles like mad then starts dealing auto damage, which is nice, but that's all he really brings to the table. Sure he has an AOE and AP destruction, but they're no where near as good as other characters' in 4* land.Cage is also good for a defensive character, but in a meta built around speed he just can't pull the weight.Then who else is there in the current packs? Coulson is cool as a support but doesn't really pull his weight like Carol does, Cloak & Dagger are weird an fun but are new enough most people haven't done much with them. Gwenpool is alright and has a versatile purple but you need to memorize the codes to get it to do anything and good luck having the AI make any use of it. Iron Fist and Mordo are underwhelming, Spider Woman is alright for her trap tile but otherwise unremarkable, and Riri and Venom are in need of a boost. All of the other contenders for top slot; Hulk Buster, Rulk, Peggy, Jean, Iceman, Punisher, Nova, they're all vaulted and a lot harder to build. Plus, I don't know if it's just me, but I find myself playing more and more with newer characters than the classics. Maybe the new ones do more, or maybe it's because I've been playing for 3 years and I'm tired of the classics for day to day use.
bbigler said: MarkersMake said: Bowgentle said: Go play a mirror match against her in PVP, preferably with a 5* Thanos. This. In a mirror match, you (probably) both have black as your strongest color. If you match black first, then you eat a 2k AOE, plus the other team gets 3 black as well. You match black 2 more times, and your whole team is down about 7k health, but you are ready to fire Carol's countdown. But so is the other Carol, and it's her turn, not yours. Naturally, she has also gathered 5 yellow, so she immediately burns her CD tile and one-shots your Carol.Bringing Peggy helps obviously, but it's a similar situation to Rulk, in that they are the best counter to themselves. Then just don't match black!
MarkersMake said: Bowgentle said: Go play a mirror match against her in PVP, preferably with a 5* Thanos. This. In a mirror match, you (probably) both have black as your strongest color. If you match black first, then you eat a 2k AOE, plus the other team gets 3 black as well. You match black 2 more times, and your whole team is down about 7k health, but you are ready to fire Carol's countdown. But so is the other Carol, and it's her turn, not yours. Naturally, she has also gathered 5 yellow, so she immediately burns her CD tile and one-shots your Carol.Bringing Peggy helps obviously, but it's a similar situation to Rulk, in that they are the best counter to themselves.
Bowgentle said: Go play a mirror match against her in PVP, preferably with a 5* Thanos.
aa25 said:This emphasizes how great her green passive is, in my opinion. There are not many characters in the entire game that have this type of impact on your play style like she does. (JG, Loki, and Hood are the only three I can think off right away.)Edit: I'm not saying she is overpowered or anything. I think her awesomeness is her green passive rather than the other two powers.
Jarvind said: Zyrook said: It probably helps her exposure that she's the best you can pull from LT tokens right now. Medusa is a contender to be sure, but she's damage over time who's simply a nuisance if you keep her CD from being matching or bring people who counter her tile generation. Blade spams Attack tiles like mad then starts dealing auto damage, which is nice, but that's all he really brings to the table. Sure he has an AOE and AP destruction, but they're no where near as good as other characters' in 4* land.Cage is also good for a defensive character, but in a meta built around speed he just can't pull the weight.Then who else is there in the current packs? Coulson is cool as a support but doesn't really pull his weight like Carol does, Cloak & Dagger are weird an fun but are new enough most people haven't done much with them. Gwenpool is alright and has a versatile purple but you need to memorize the codes to get it to do anything and good luck having the AI make any use of it. Iron Fist and Mordo are underwhelming, Spider Woman is alright for her trap tile but otherwise unremarkable, and Riri and Venom are in need of a boost. All of the other contenders for top slot; Hulk Buster, Rulk, Peggy, Jean, Iceman, Punisher, Nova, they're all vaulted and a lot harder to build. Plus, I don't know if it's just me, but I find myself playing more and more with newer characters than the classics. Maybe the new ones do more, or maybe it's because I've been playing for 3 years and I'm tired of the classics for day to day use. Personally I mostly choose my teams based on who is boosted. I don't always end up with the most efficient team (Cho, Wasp and Drax is my go-to this week, which is decent but not earth shattering) but it keeps me cycling through different characters and makes PVE pretty easy due to everyone having tons of health and damage output.
Crowl said: aa25 said:This emphasizes how great her green passive is, in my opinion. There are not many characters in the entire game that have this type of impact on your play style like she does. (JG, Loki, and Hood are the only three I can think off right away.)Edit: I'm not saying she is overpowered or anything. I think her awesomeness is her green passive rather than the other two powers. I think you are very much underestimating just how good her yellow passive can be in any team that can supply her plenty of cooldown tiles and the active component is hardly useless either.The strength of her as a character is that she is a well-rounded character and not simply a one-trick pony like all too many characters are in this game.
Orion said: 5Hawkeye/Coulson/Carol is quite funny. It's a little slow in getting the strikes out, but Hawkeye is firing 2-3 arrows a turn, plus Coulson's additional CD each time. So once the strikes come out, they quickly get ridiculous. A little slow for PvP, but it would crush wave nodes.
vinsensual said: Talk about a Losefinite in the Hulk pvp. Didn't think about the matchup, but my XFW/IF just got destroyed by an underleveled Carol. Any green match triggers her aoe damage which is enough to get Anger out, and you just watch your team destroy itself on the next turn.
Crowl said: vinsensual said: Talk about a Losefinite in the Hulk pvp. Didn't think about the matchup, but my XFW/IF just got destroyed by an underleveled Carol. Any green match triggers her aoe damage which is enough to get Anger out, and you just watch your team destroy itself on the next turn. I was using her in the Hulk pvp and it was great, just try to find teams where their Hulk was well boosted and just sit back and cackle with glee as the ai proceeds to kill themselves.
byc said: I think she's great because I play 5* Thanos, and the two of them together are amazing.Her green gives me black, so I can put out Barrage very quickly. This allows it to put down some strike tiles while I get green for Thano's Come And Get Me.At higher level play, I really need somebody who can do about 10k while being syngergic with Thanos. Depends on the situation, I will either finish Barrage or Come And Get Me, and then start the cascade of Court Death off of one of those. My preference is definitely Barrage naturally so Court Death is boosted more from those strike tiles.I don't really have a steady 3rd. It depends on the situation. If the match is going to be tight, I often go Red Hulk to accelerate green. If it's slow, I got Old Man Logan (even with the nerf). Hulkbuster if I need more single-target damage.I like Carol a lot with Coulson and 5* Hawkeye's winfinite team. She's not needed, but she helps accelerate the process.
bbigler said: byc said: I think she's great because I play 5* Thanos, and the two of them together are amazing.Her green gives me black, so I can put out Barrage very quickly. This allows it to put down some strike tiles while I get green for Thano's Come And Get Me.At higher level play, I really need somebody who can do about 10k while being syngergic with Thanos. Depends on the situation, I will either finish Barrage or Come And Get Me, and then start the cascade of Court Death off of one of those. My preference is definitely Barrage naturally so Court Death is boosted more from those strike tiles.I don't really have a steady 3rd. It depends on the situation. If the match is going to be tight, I often go Red Hulk to accelerate green. If it's slow, I got Old Man Logan (even with the nerf). Hulkbuster if I need more single-target damage.I like Carol a lot with Coulson and 5* Hawkeye's winfinite team. She's not needed, but she helps accelerate the process. How does the Carol, Coulson, Hawkeye winfinite work?
Piro_plock said: It's not a winfinite per se (because you need to give your opponents a few turns), but basically:- get out strike tiles (Carol black or one of Hawkeye's arrows)- fire cheap Hawkeye powers, causing Coulson to create (even more) CDs- use Carol yellow whenever possible or collect TU AP so that Coulson can accelerate CDs- watch as your enemies melt away