4* Transition and Bonus Heroes

bk201

I've recently champed all 3* (except for Hawkguy) and have a lot of 4* poorly covered, just a few with 5 or 4 covers. Also, have 40 LT, 1400 CP and 2 new spots (maybe 3, I can sell Howard, think others will be more useful). I don't have these: Carnage, Elektra, Kate Bishop, Kingpin, Medusa, Miles, Mr. Fantastic, Ironheart, Sam Wilson, Spider Gwen, Eddie Brock and War Machine (and Devil Dino, not important for now).

I'll start opening those LT, so:

1. Who do you recommend choosing as bonus heroes? Should I focus in only 1 until get it covered, just select the top tier or select those I have more covers? I was thinking about selecting Rulk, Hulkbuster, Peggy (all with 4 covers) and Cyclops (5 covers) as they're top tier and best covered, but your opinion will be appreciated.

2. Does it work if I select a 4* that I don't have atm?

3. After finishing the LTs, how do you recommend spending the CP, on latest or classics? Or keep hoarding until some changes are made? Quite confused here, don't know if I should try to get the old 5* from classics or spend on latest, trying to cover the latest 4* and eventually getting a 5*. You know, just thoughts, need to get the remaining 4* first, and I don't think the odds of getting a 5* are in favor.

Anyway, I'm just anticipating the questions and events, as I'll be opening the tokens as I get enough HP for a new spot. Roster is in signature, updated today.

Thanks in advance!

Magic

My first advice will be - don't open yet. Enjoy the 3* land where you can do very well in PvE (and go for 575 in each PvP). Not sure how you spend the hero points but with your roster it should only be spent on slots. Don't buy the packs, don't buy health packs, don't even shield much (maybe at the end of event to protect final score). Again - enjoy the game and keep developing your roster in a natural way (mainly via progression in PvP and PvE). Or jump to the end of the post for the alternative solution.

Before you open the hoard you should acquire enough hero points (via gameplay or buy if you are paying player) to roster them all (even Howard, with the current flow of HP there is no point not rostering him).

Once more - you need plenty of hero points (unless you have all characters rosterd) and plenty of ISO to open the hoard.

To answer the specific questions:
1. It's better to focus on one hero and in your case I would focus on one of the latest ones like Medusa or Carol D. Don't hold your breath on this - your CP stash is good for 70 classic pulls. They will give you about 3-4 bonus heros if you are on average (might be 5-6 if you are very lucky, might be 0-1 if unlucky). You might get 2-3 more with the Latest tokens. You will not max cover anybody that way. That's why the BH is a trap with the 5% odds.
2. Yes - you can get the first cover that way.
3. See above. Keep hoarding, accumulating resources and pull when you are ready. In my opinion (feel free to disagree with it) you are not. The best usage of such a nice hoard you have is to pull the whole thing using the latest to acquire 3 fully covered 5* (you won't need to level them if you don't want to jump to 5* land). While doing that you get a lot of 4* covers. But such a hoard requires about 250 pulls from latest. You have about 100. Not yet there but you can get there. And meanwhile you will develop your roster. With the vaulting you should focus on the latest 12 (or even the newest 6-8 as they will be rotating out sooner then you can cover them) as it's very unlikely that you will be able to cover any of the old ones in a reasonable time. You might still open an odd legendary token (I would go for classics if you decide to) just for the pleasure of opening the 4/5 hero. But you need spare HP for that as well.

I will play Devil's advocate on myself here as well. There is another option. Open the CP on classic legends. That way you will acquire the 4* heroes of today and be able to cover some/most of them. Make sure you have iso so the covers are not wasted. And do it if you want to jump to 4* territory (advisable to have 3-4 4* ready and pushed in more or less the same time). Keep the latest tokens for future use to cover the future 5* (it won't be any of the current ones there) - treat it as a special trophy and keep accumulating. This way you will have a feeling of a steady progression to 4* land and you will be priming yourself for a jump to 5* land in some time (probably around a year from today).

granne

Magic already covered just about everything, but I just wanted to add one thing. You are far more likely to pick up your missing 4*s from 3* champ rewards, as most of them have feeders, than you are to get them as 4* BHs. You could consider setting each feeder as your BH until it hits that cover at 183, then switching.

Good luck!

OneLastGambit

My advice is set your BH to anyone who is does not have 5 in any colour. The RNG will frustrate you with dupes if you do and since BH are rare anyway you want to make best use of them as possible.

Despite not being able to reliably add champ levels to older characters anymore it is still worth building and champing them because someday they will be boosted and/or essential.

For now though focus on getting 3 of the current pool fullycovered before you put iso into any of them. They will only start helping when you have a couple maxed, otherwise keep building into you are in a position to insta-max them.

bk201

Wow! Thanks a lot for your replies! Couldn't find my previous draft, think I lost it during the forum transition, so I'll try remember and answer everything.

Magic:

My first advice will be - don't open yet. Enjoy the 3* land where you can do very well in PvE (and go for 575 in each PvP). Not sure how you spend the hero points but with your roster it should only be spent on slots. Don't buy the packs, don't buy health packs, don't even shield much (maybe at the end of event to protect final score). Again - enjoy the game and keep developing your roster in a natural way (mainly via progression in PvP and PvE). Or jump to the end of the post for the alternative solution.

Yes! I'm enjoying it a lot! I mainly play PvE, I can reach max progression when I have time to play, otherwise, I try to get the 4* reward, at least. Scaling at this point it's great, think it's well balanced for my roster. I only play hard in PvP depending on the event rewards, reached 575 a few times but, you know, don't put much effort every single time. Also, all my HP goes to slots, made those mistakes when I was starting the game, learned the hard way!

1. It's better to focus on one hero and in your case I would focus on one of the latest ones like Medusa or Carol D. Don't hold your breath on this - your CP stash is good for 70 classic pulls. They will give you about 3-4 bonus heros if you are on average (might be 5-6 if you are very lucky, might be 0-1 if unlucky). You might get 2-3 more with the Latest tokens. You will not max cover anybody that way. That's why the BH is a trap with the 5% odds.

I was a bit lucky with BH while champing my last 3*, but things in 4* land are quite different, not to say slower, at least. I'm aware it's a trap, but if I get 2-3 bonus covers from those 40 LT and 3-4 from CP pulls, it's still good. Well, I'll select only one, so who do you recommend focusing right now? Medusa, Carol, Coulson, Luke Cage? Don't have much xp with those on the pool, so who's worth possibly getting extra covers first? Am I forgetting anyone?

3. See above. Keep hoarding, accumulating resources and pull when you are ready. In my opinion (feel free to disagree with it) you are not. The best usage of such a nice hoard you have is to pull the whole thing using the latest to acquire 3 fully covered 5* (you won't need to level them if you don't want to jump to 5* land). While doing that you get a lot of 4* covers. But such a hoard requires about 250 pulls from latest. You have about 100. Not yet there but you can get there. And meanwhile you will develop your roster. With the vaulting you should focus on the latest 12 (or even the newest 6-8 as they will be rotating out sooner then you can cover them) as it's very unlikely that you will be able to cover any of the old ones in a reasonable time. You might still open an odd legendary token (I would go for classics if you decide to) just for the pleasure of opening the 4/5 hero. But you need spare HP for that as well.

I will play Devil's advocate on myself here as well. There is another option. Open the CP on classic legends. That way you will acquire the 4* heroes of today and be able to cover some/most of them. Make sure you have iso so the covers are not wasted. And do it if you want to jump to 4* territory (advisable to have 3-4 4* ready and pushed in more or less the same time). Keep the latest tokens for future use to cover the future 5* (it won't be any of the current ones there) - treat it as a special trophy and keep accumulating. This way you will have a feeling of a steady progression to 4* land and you will be priming yourself for a jump to 5* land in some time (probably around a year from today).

I'm definitely not ready, not at all! Regardless of the choice, I still need a lot of HP to roster the remaining, not to mention the next releases, and tons of iso to champ 3-4 4* at the same time, now I have enough for just one. I'm asking so I'll be more prepared when the time comes.

Well, both suggestions are interesting! First one, I need tons of CP and/or LT, but I have a good chance to get more covers of the 3 newest 5*, besides several 4* covers. On the other hand, I could save the LT for future releases, and use the CP on Classics to get 4* covers and eventually, get the older 5*. I know I'm thinking too much ahead but I can think in one major disadvantage of the Classics: I can end up with more 5* with less covers than opening only the Latest tokens. As you've pointed, it's possible to acquire the 3 latest 5*, fully covered with 250+ pulls. I can see now, the lines on the road are longer than I thought.

granne:

You are far more likely to pick up your missing 4*s from 3* champ rewards, as most of them have feeders, than you are to get them as 4* BHs. You could consider setting each feeder as your BH until it hits that cover at 183, then switching.

Well observed! Thanks! For those missing, I think only Medusa, Spider Gwen and Ironheart don't have feeders.

OneLastGambit:

My advice is set your BH to anyone who is does not have 5 in any colour. The RNG will frustrate you with dupes if you do and since BH are rare anyway you want to make best use of them as possible.

Exactly! Hate when that happens!

Despite not being able to reliably add champ levels to older characters anymore it is still worth building and champing them because someday they will be boosted and/or essential.

I wonder when I'll fully cover the 4* top tier characters!

For now though focus on getting 3 of the current pool fully covered before you put iso into any of them. They will only start helping when you have a couple maxed, otherwise keep building into you are in a position to insta-max them.

Also, read about scaling, they say it raises considerably after champing the first 4*, so I'm hoarding iso to level 3 or 4 at the same time.

Magic

I love Carol D from the day we have met. And I don't have Medusa or Coulson ready to play so not really gonna say which one is better. I would go with Carol as she doesn't need to have a team built around her (but get's better in the right set-up). But I will let others chime in as well on this choice.