So as the 1# is reserved..

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First off, this is not a thread to bash shield, they've earned their due, and such super-alliance is always formed in these games.

But, I was wondering if there would be a silver and bronze tiers so the rest of us mortals would have something to thrive for?

I was thinking 250/150 hp, whaddaya say? And complementary iso of course

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At some point we are going to lose a PVP, we haven't won many PVE's apart from where we took 3 out of the 4 venom heroic rounds (which was a surprise). Everyone is improving their teams and the gap is closing. I mean I had to push to over 1200 in the last PVP tournament and we got members pushing past that now in the Hulk PVP. We are just working harder when it counts then other alliances, be it late pushes, use of shields etc.

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beemand2g wrote:

We are just working harder when it counts then other alliances, be it late pushes, use of shields etc.

You're missing the point Bee. No one is taking Shield's wins away. You guys win fair and square, no doubt.
Interruptor is trying to point out that the 2nd/3rd place alliances work pretty hard too. And the rewards should reflect that. Surely placing top 5 is a lot more work than finishing top 50. As it stands, the alliance reward structure doesn't acknowledge that difference, and it should.

Unknown

I agree top 5 even top 10 should be given better rewards. I don't like this untouchable tag however. We will lose a fair few PVP tourneys. Your alliance has pushed us and there are several others who have also done well. I think people need to reliase nothing is reserved and it's all up for grabs. Lycra I also apologise for hitting you so many times over these last 2 PVP your one of the only juicy scoring targets. You should get a good retal back for this recent one.

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beemand2g wrote:

I agree top 5 even top 10 should be given better rewards. I don't like this untouchable tag however. We will lose a fair few PVP tourneys. Your alliance has pushed us and there are several others who have also done well. I think people need to reliase nothing is reserved and it's all up for grabs. Lycra I also apologise for hitting you so many times over these last 2 PVP your one of the only juicy scoring targets. You should get a good retal back for this recent one.

You do spend a lot of money on shield's dont you? I apologize for hitting you twice last night! Luckily you shielded and i'm done with event.

I think the 2-50 reward structure was a joke, if shield was barely finishing second, and ended up getting the same rewards as the HowlingNutJobs you guys would be up in arms, Jozier fuming at the mouth. demiurge tried a #2 finish once then went back to the nonsense model. But we do have a bunch of unsolicited new features though!

Unknown

I agree with all the sentiments here, as usual, BUT this is the umpteenth thread on this exact topic.

Unknown

I wouldn't really be up in arms myself I would just want to knock top spot down. My shielding varies depending on PVP but yea I am the alliance name personified.

Unknown

The way things have worked in the past, I see the 500 HP reward getting nerfed with any change. Probably a 300 for first, 200 for 2-5, 100 for 6-10, and 50 HP with varying ISO awards for top 100.

They do not -have- to lower the HP given to lower placing teams, but it does seem to be the trend.

Moral

I think the Deadly version was an attempt to try and open up opportunities to other players. Expectation was that a lot of shield would see a wall of 400s.

If they add a Deadly version of The Hunt, I can imagine the obsessive 'must be top 3 in every bracket' doing one of 2 things:

- quitting their day job to become a full time MPQ gamer

Or

- /ragequit

Unknown

Why would I care? I have more HP than most people who play this game.

Also you'll forever be "not the best" Klingsor so I'm pretty well set whether they change the rewards or not.

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jozier wrote:

Why would I care? I have more HP than most people who play this game.

Also you'll forever be "not the best" Klingsor so I'm pretty well set whether they change the rewards or not.

So you're just playing a character, right? Kind of like Stephen Colbert pretending to be a conservative for comic effect? And you're actually a nice guy?

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wathombe wrote:

jozier wrote:

Why would I care? I have more HP than most people who play this game.

Also you'll forever be "not the best" Klingsor so I'm pretty well set whether they change the rewards or not.

So you're just playing a character, right? Kind of like Stephen Colbert pretending to be a conservative for comic effect? And you're actually a nice guy?

I don't play a character. I'm just tired of klingsor's obsession with me. He keeps posting about me without me even being around.

He's obsessed with me and then he'll post some stupid claptrap about how he's roleplaying as an obsessive **** bag.

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jozier wrote:

I don't play a character. I'm just tired of klingsor's obsession with me. He keeps posting about me without me even being around.

He's obsessed with me and then he'll post some stupid claptrap about how he's roleplaying as an obsessive **** bag.

Got it. Personal beef there. Thanks for elucidating.

mischiefmaker

The sentiment "we'll never beat SHIELD" is a self-fulfilling prophecy, kind of like "girls don't like me, so why should I bother showering".

Unknown

Shield should just adopt the following as their official theme song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5oDh7o3a00

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jozier wrote:

wathombe wrote:

jozier wrote:

Why would I care? I have more HP than most people who play this game.

Also you'll forever be "not the best" Klingsor so I'm pretty well set whether they change the rewards or not.

So you're just playing a character, right? Kind of like Stephen Colbert pretending to be a conservative for comic effect? And you're actually a nice guy?

I don't play a character. I'm just tired of klingsor's obsession with me. He keeps posting about me without me even being around.

He's obsessed with me and then he'll post some stupid claptrap about how he's roleplaying as an obsessive **** bag.

As opposed to being an honest to god a-hole that likes to insult people on every thread. I make come in second on every tournament, but you are always 100% a-hole. You are very entitled for someone that's on the bottom of your alliance ranking. I don't even smack you around when i see you anymore, you know why? You are worth 12 points! In other words, you my friend, are worthless.

Unknown

Ok I was semi-kidding about the reserved 1# part. And I was talking about pvp mostly. I know shield is busting their butts for those wins. My point was that there's some alliances (especially venoms) who bust their butts off to challenge shield, and it's just a bit weird that top 3 (or even top 10 given the increased competition) gets same awards than a top 50.

But I certainly hope such change wouldn't mean a nerf for top 50 as that isn't a guarantee anymore.

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klingsor wrote:

jozier wrote:

wathombe wrote:

jozier wrote:

Why would I care? I have more HP than most people who play this game.

Also you'll forever be "not the best" Klingsor so I'm pretty well set whether they change the rewards or not.

So you're just playing a character, right? Kind of like Stephen Colbert pretending to be a conservative for comic effect? And you're actually a nice guy?

I don't play a character. I'm just tired of klingsor's obsession with me. He keeps posting about me without me even being around.

He's obsessed with me and then he'll post some stupid claptrap about how he's roleplaying as an obsessive **** bag.

As opposed to being an honest to god a-hole that likes to insult people on every thread. I make come in second on every tournament, but you are always 100% a-hole. You are very entitled for someone that's on the bottom of your alliance ranking. I don't even smack you around when i see you anymore, you know why? You are worth 12 points! In other words, you my friend, are worthless.

Keep my name out of your mouth you perennial also-ran.

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Get off my **** you obsessive weirdo. Those are three posts where you mention me out of context. You're a loser and always will be, notwithstanding your repeated idiotic attempts to claim you're roleplaying like some "doom" level villain. The only thing you have in common with Doom is that you always lose.

You have 100 less points than me in Smash Hit, so stop pretending you're somehow better at PVP. Not that I care anyway, because I win every tournament I try in and your alliance can't win **** all.

Stop stalking me and leave me alone. Anyone that isn't in your sycophantic dumb alliance knows how big of a weird **** bag you are.

Unknown

Not to be technical but you are under me by like 7 points so i'm not sure what you are talking about. You should break shield and get more points though. Do it. As far as mentioning you, i asked you to stop posting after me since you started this bad habit. Ill agree to not talk to you in forums if you agree to the same. And yes dude, i'm a huge loser and everyone hates me, lol...

Unknown

At the time of posting you were 100 points beneath me, because unlike you I don't have to make **** up to feel better about myself.

I know that the concept of time and anything normal is foreign to you but you should really get on board with it.

Anyone else can read your posts and check my reputation history to see you have an unhealthy obsession with me.

Get help, you are pathetic.

Nonce Equitaur 2

These are fallacious arguments. Argumentum ad nauseam, Argumentum ad hominem, the Homunculus fallacy, Ignoratio elenchi, ludic fallacies, Post hoc ergo propter hoc, proof by verbosity, reification, and argumentum ad populum.

These are disturbingly flawed arguments. Closing the thread.