Vaulted characters and the Daily resupply list

DrDevilDinosaur

On day 1195, we get a Moon Knight cover from daily resupply. That's in 2 days for me, and probably about a month or two ago for people who are right at the top. IIRC, this will be the second Moon Knight cover from daily login, yet he was vaulted out of Tokens about 2 weeks ago.

Now this isn't a huge problem, just one of those quirks that has arisen from implementing one system to try and encourage a robust and evolving meta-game, but leaving older, archaic systems in place. I assume that there's going to be a third MK cover for daily login eventually. That'll become a champ level, because I was fortunate enough to get MK finished before he was vaulted. But looking ahead, these daily login covers are going to start to be an anomaly.

In the end, it's only going to be a case of 3 covers for any given character, so maybe it doesn't matter. Is it time to replace the daily login with something different? I've long thought that a monthly calendar style login tracker would be a better alternative, especially since those reset at the start of each month and are considerably less daunting for newcomers than reading about "Day 1195". That was the whole reason for taking away Season numbers, so there's definitely some precedent.

Felonius

I have had MK covered for some time now, but champed others before him due to arrival of 14th covers. Just the other day I was looking at this thread and noticed that throughout October/November of this year, I'll have covers 14-16 show up despite MK being vaulted...

Obviously, I have plenty of time until then (being >6mos away), and who knows where the game will be by that time, but it still got me thinking if it'll be worth it to champ him to use those three covers, or just look at it as 3k ISO incoming.

I have a similar situation with my covered Drax, but I've only one cover for him incoming (in August).

Pants1000

The devs aren't trying to completely remove vaulted characters, they just want it to be easier to cover new ones when there are 40+ 4's. They aren't removing them from event vaults, progression rewards, placement rewards, or champ rewards.

I'm fine with leaving it as is, even though I'm around day 900 and I have quite a few vaulted 4's coming up for me that I won't be able to use.

jredd

Pants1000 wrote:

The devs aren't trying to completely remove vaulted characters, they just want it to be easier to cover new ones when there are 40+ 4's. They aren't removing them from event vaults, progression rewards, placement rewards, or champ rewards.

I'm fine with leaving it as is, even though I'm around day 900 and I have quite a few vaulted 4's coming up for me that I won't be able to use.

there needs to be options. it's right there in the names. 'classic legendary' and 'latest legendary'. put the old lads and lasses in classic, and the newest 12 in latest. shoot, have classics 1, and classics 2. or rotate 2 groups through the tokens. but vaulting them out of those tokens is bad for several reasons.

El Satanno

DrDevilDinosaur wrote:

On day 1195, we get a Moon Knight cover from daily resupply. That's in 2 days for me, and probably about a month or two ago for people who are right at the top. IIRC, this will be the second Moon Knight cover from daily login, yet he was vaulted out of Tokens about 2 weeks ago.

Now this isn't a huge problem, just one of those quirks that has arisen from implementing one system to try and encourage a robust and evolving meta-game, but leaving older, archaic systems in place. I assume that there's going to be a third MK cover for daily login eventually. That'll become a champ level, because I was fortunate enough to get MK finished before he was vaulted. But looking ahead, these daily login covers are going to start to be an anomaly.

In the end, it's only going to be a case of 3 covers for any given character, so maybe it doesn't matter. Is it time to replace the daily login with something different? I've long thought that a monthly calendar style login tracker would be a better alternative, especially since those reset at the start of each month and are considerably less daunting for newcomers than reading about "Day 1195". That was the whole reason for taking away Season numbers, so there's definitely some precedent.

Somewhere around here I commented with a suggestion on the daily resupply as well. I'll refrain from using any of the tired tropes that parade around the forum, however the resupply does certainly reinforce the narrative of a Bolt-on Design philosophy. I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts that it never changes, though.

smoq84

The 4* covers are not a problem of Daily Resupply. The problem is within random rewards like Standard Tokens, Health Packs, etc.
This is ridiculous that after 1000 days of playing we still get such rewards.

CNash

Whatever happened to the notion that Elite Tokens would be replacing Standard Tokens in most cases? Or was that misinterpreted?

jredd

CNash wrote:

Whatever happened to the notion that Elite Tokens would be replacing Standard Tokens in most cases? Or was that misinterpreted?

they replaced them as a progression reward, for something. i dunno. but replace them completely? nah.

broll

CNash wrote:

Whatever happened to the notion that Elite Tokens would be replacing Standard Tokens in most cases? Or was that misinterpreted?

It was misinterpreted. The wording of the announcement originally said replacing, which is somewhat true but misleading. What they meant was it was replacing it in a few places, not blanket everywhere.

JHawkInc

smoq84 wrote:

The 4* covers are not a problem of Daily Resupply. The problem is within random rewards like Standard Tokens, Health Packs, etc.
This is ridiculous that after 1000 days of playing we still get such rewards.

It would be awesome if these things increased every year or 100 days or so. Like you get an extra health pack, ISO rewards are a tad higher, might pull an Elite instead of a Standard (and the longer you go on, the greater those odds become, ideally to a point that Elites replace Standards entirely).

Having a program that rewards daily play is awesome (I'm due a Surfer in the next 30 days, that'll be pretty cool), but being two years in and getting a Standard token for logging in is almost like giving me a chore. "Oh yay, I get to go to the recruit page and navigate over and open this and then go to my roster and sell it for 100 ISO. I'd rather just have 100 ISO." It's a petty thing to complain about, but it makes the daily random rewards very unexciting.

GurlBYE

What sucks about daily resupply is besides tossing CP in it hasn't changed in too long.

Also it is in severe need of colorless covers.

I saw that I have a red hulkbuster coming in about 200 days.

I've had 5 red for about 4 months now.

One thing they've done with vaulting is make those rewards use-able for more players I guess.

I may keep next months elektra black for Crash though, even though they would be my only 3 covers.

OneLastGambit

Daily resupply definitely needs a revamp.

from day 1-300: keep it as it is
301-400 : Double the iso and replace all standards with elite
401-600 : Double the iso again.
601-900: double the iso again, change all elite tokens to Heroics, change all Covers earned to colourless
900+ : Double the iso again, double the CP.

That is in no way a complete revamp but that's a good starting point.

jneidus

OneLastGambit wrote:

Daily resupply definitely needs a revamp.

from day 1-300: keep it as it is
301-400 : Double the iso and replace all standards with elite
401-600 : Double the iso again.
601-900: double the iso again, change all elite tokens to Heroics, change all Covers earned to colourless
900+ : Double the iso again, double the CP.

That is in no way a complete revamp but that's a good starting point.

And give everyone their retroactive due, right???

broll

OneLastGambit wrote:

Daily resupply definitely needs a revamp.

from day 1-300: keep it as it is
301-400 : Double the iso and replace all standards with elite
401-600 : Double the iso again.
601-900: double the iso again, change all elite tokens to Heroics, change all Covers earned to colourless
900+ : Double the iso again, double the CP.

That is in no way a complete revamp but that's a good starting point.

As someone on 383 I support this (even though I know it would never happen)

bbigler

Is there a list somewhere detailing the cover rewards from the daily resupply?

broll

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SnowcaTT

I had been keeping a close on on daily resupply - and staying ahead, champing all characters that were coming up on it.

I have Drax in a few days: and there is no reason to champ him. After that is War Machine x 3: and there is no reason to champ him (guess what will be in "worst of the day" those days?).

With the vaulting world there is simply no reason to try to catch up on the backlog, rather than champing the newest 4*'s first and trying to make the best of this (terrible imo) game change decision.

DrDevilDinosaur

GurlBYE wrote:

What sucks about daily resupply is besides tossing CP in it hasn't changed in too long.

Not sure exactly when it started - possibly the same time they added CP - but I occasionally get Heroic 10-packs now, which is nice. That hasn't replaced the single Heroic, or even "Random" (standard token/boost/health packs) draws.

pfarewell

Snowcatt, you must champ everything! Secret treasure and rewards await!!!!!!