Is pvp a massive waste of time?

TPF Alexis

Between my own experience and what I've read, I feel like it really, really depends on where you are in the game. Where I'm at, in the 2*-3* transition, I can easily max progression and get t50 in PvE, but pushing past the 575 CP in PvP is essentially impossible.

As you climb higher into 4* and 5*, tho, you get the tools to hang at higher levels in PvP, while scaling means that PvE at best stays the same, and from what I hear, can actually get harder.

In any case, the key to enjoying it is understanding what is a reasonable expectation for your roster and the amount/distribution of time you have available to play. I found PvP super frustrating until I learned and accepted that at my level, there is really no point in trying to push past 575, and left the higher areas of PvP to the big kids.

RemoDestroyer

Don't know if it's been said but maybe if it's not fun it's a waste of time. Unless you're making some kind of financial gain from playing. Or in the case you're not having fun and you're into punishing yourself. I think if none of rhe above 3 apply then yes it is a waste of time.

mega ghost

It's a huge waste of time if you're going for placement rewards. Totally worth it if you're just after progression rewards. Assuming you're in a higher SHIELD Clearance, 200 points gets you an Elite Token, 300 a Heroic (well, one for that PvP, but it's essentially just a Heroic that they make look shinier), 400 gets you 50 HP, and 575 gets you 10 CP. I always go to 575 for those command points. It's pretty effortless as you don't really get attacked until you exceed that. If I'm on a roll, have good boosted characters, and see some high-point matches, I'll play for 650 to get the additional token.

On rare occasion, the PvP has a 4* cover I really want or need at 900, and I'll fight for that. This requires that you spend HP on shields, but if you put even a little attention into it and have some boosted characters, it's doable and worthwhile.

TimGunn

lol @ this thread

1. yes

2. you have to shield. if you've been playing for 3 years, you can most likely earn enough HP in-game, to cover a modest amount of shield each PVP (and don't have to pay $$)

fmftint

Let me enlighten all of you, this ENTIRE GAME is a massive waste of time. It's main objective is to separate us from our time and money

drayviper32

I was very annoyed with the No Good News PvP. Was so close to getting the 900 point cover which was the Hawkguy one. People hit me hard. Very frustrating! I decided this will be my last PvP season because of that. People going nuts for a 3* cover. Yes PvP is a waste of time. I got better things to do!

KGB

Polares wrote:

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PS: I would really like to know some numbers about how many people play just PvE or just PvP, how many people play to 575 and how many play for more...

I play both

I play to 575 in PvP because my roster is weak (lots of 120ish level characters plus some single 5* covers). My season goal is 4000+ points and a T50 finish in CL7 for a 2nd heroic 10 pack or if I am REALLY lucky a T25 finish (last season was first time) for 3 heroic 10 pacts.

I try and place T10 or T5 in PvE to get 4* placement covers.

KGB

astrp3

KGB wrote:

I play to 575 in PvP because my roster is weak (lots of 120ish level characters plus some single 5* covers). My season goal is 4000+ points and a T50 finish in CL7 for a 2nd heroic 10 pack or if I am REALLY lucky a T25 finish (last season was first time) for 3 heroic 10 pacts.
KGB

Huh? How are you getting top 50 placement for the season if you're only shooting for 575 in PvP?

I scored over 9000 in SCL 7 in each of the last two seasons and didn't even get top 100. Are you getting over 2000 in Simulator?

MaxxPowerz

I spent 525 hp on shields and was able to get a much needed Hawkeye and Winter Soldier cover.

It's all about choosing your battles and realizing when it's worth it to sink your time and resources into it. Don't go in to PVP expecting to earn every prize.

A lot depends on how many boosted 4* characters you currently have champed on your roster. I'll be sad when Cyc and Star Lord leave the boosted list.

TimGunn

drayviper32 wrote:

I was very annoyed with the No Good News PvP. Was so close to getting the 900 point cover which was the Hawkguy one. People hit me hard. Very frustrating! I decided this will be my last PvP season because of that. People going nuts for a 3* cover. Yes PvP is a waste of time. I got better things to do!

Do you mean the 800 point cover? In CL7&8, 800 is a three-star and 900 is a four-star (was winter soldier in NGN-PVP). Maybe you were in a lower CL? But with your terrific roster, you should play in the higher CL!!!

But just to be clear, the people you fight and who fight you do not have to be in the same CL as you. So those people were surely "going nuts" trying to reach 900 in order to get the four-star card.

Quebbster

TimGunn wrote:

drayviper32 wrote:

I was very annoyed with the No Good News PvP. Was so close to getting the 900 point cover which was the Hawkguy one. People hit me hard. Very frustrating! I decided this will be my last PvP season because of that. People going nuts for a 3* cover. Yes PvP is a waste of time. I got better things to do!

Do you mean the 800 point cover? In CL7&8, 800 is a three-star and 900 is a four-star (was winter soldier in NGN-PVP). Maybe you were in a lower CL? But with your terrific roster, you should play in the higher CL!!!

But just to be clear, the people you fight and who fight you do not have to be in the same CL as you. So those people were surely "going nuts" trying to reach 900 in order to get the four-star card.

Plenty of people drop down to SCL 6 in the release tournaments for new Three-star characters as they prefer getting an extra cover for the new Three-star over getting Another cover for an old fourstar.

ValekBoss

astrp3 wrote:

KGB wrote:

I play to 575 in PvP because my roster is weak (lots of 120ish level characters plus some single 5* covers). My season goal is 4000+ points and a T50 finish in CL7 for a 2nd heroic 10 pack or if I am REALLY lucky a T25 finish (last season was first time) for 3 heroic 10 pacts.
KGB

Huh? How are you getting top 50 placement for the season if you're only shooting for 575 in PvP?

I scored over 9000 in SCL 7 in each of the last two seasons and didn't even get top 100. Are you getting over 2000 in Simulator?

You can snipe for fresh season brackets and get easy season top placement.

Magic

ValekBoss wrote:

astrp3 wrote:

KGB wrote:

I play to 575 in PvP because my roster is weak (lots of 120ish level characters plus some single 5* covers). My season goal is 4000+ points and a T50 finish in CL7 for a 2nd heroic 10 pack or if I am REALLY lucky a T25 finish (last season was first time) for 3 heroic 10 pacts.
KGB

Huh? How are you getting top 50 placement for the season if you're only shooting for 575 in PvP?

I scored over 9000 in SCL 7 in each of the last two seasons and didn't even get top 100. Are you getting over 2000 in Simulator?

You can snipe for fresh season brackets and get easy season top placement.

My experience with sniping season brackets is that you need to skip 2 events to make it work (no guarantee). I've done it a couple of times and since the last one did not work I've decided not to do it anymore (missed 2 events and still joined a bracket with over 4000 players so I had a horrible finish). But I did snipe it once to top5 finish for 3 10-packs. It was awesome.

Spidurman27

PVE is dirt simple with good boosteds and a good roster.

Wake up, grind first 4. Play last 2-3 right before bed. If there's a chance for a nerf there I'll do the fifth clear around dinner time or a little later JIC. Easy top 20, sometimes t10. Minimal life impact. If I want to push harder once in a while, I can re-arrange my schedule and go harder for 2-3 days. (with first day clears and final end its less than the whole event).

PVP is just as simple if you plan well and aren't aiming for elite placement. Pick a slice that you can be around for that 3-8 hour from the end window. Float til then, then grind. Hop if you want, don't if you don't want.

Have a life and have very good placements....it's pretty doable.

Jarvind

Spidurman27 wrote:

PVE is dirt simple with good boosteds and a good roster.

Wake up, grind first 4. Play last 2-3 right before bed. If there's a chance for a nerf there I'll do the fifth clear around dinner time or a little later JIC. Easy top 20, sometimes t10. Minimal life impact. If I want to push harder once in a while, I can re-arrange my schedule and go harder for 2-3 days. (with first day clears and final end its less than the whole event).

PVP is just as simple if you plan well and aren't aiming for elite placement. Pick a slice that you can be around for that 3-8 hour from the end window. Float til then, then grind. Hop if you want, don't if you don't want.

Have a life and have very good placements....it's pretty doable.

Either this is false (see bolded portion) or you're playing in lowbie brackets. Every PVE I've ever entered has mega grinders in the top ten spots, new release or otherwise.

Spidurman27

Jarvind wrote:

Spidurman27 wrote:

PVE is dirt simple with good boosteds and a good roster.

Wake up, grind first 4. Play last 2-3 right before bed. If there's a chance for a nerf there I'll do the fifth clear around dinner time or a little later JIC. Easy top 20, sometimes t10. Minimal life impact. If I want to push harder once in a while, I can re-arrange my schedule and go harder for 2-3 days. (with first day clears and final end its less than the whole event).

PVP is just as simple if you plan well and aren't aiming for elite placement. Pick a slice that you can be around for that 3-8 hour from the end window. Float til then, then grind. Hop if you want, don't if you don't want.

Have a life and have very good placements....it's pretty doable.

Either this is false (see bolded portion) or you're playing in lowbie brackets. Every PVE I've ever entered has mega grinders in the top ten spots, new release or otherwise.

SCL7. And 0% I could pull off t10 on a release on this schedule....I know that. Regular event, decent shot, but not a guarantee. Call it 30%, a little more if I time the slice flip on day one good. Less if I don't.

broll

Didn't read most of the thread, IMO the answer is yes, until you get a few 4* champed. Before I had 4* champs I'd be luck to hit the 575 10 CP in progression and never placed. Now as long as I start early and grind it up every 8ish hours I can get the 800/900 rewards without too much difficulty. Shielding is absolutely required if the 4* cover is very sought after or if you care about placement.

Wjohnson992

Jarvind wrote:

Spidurman27 wrote:

PVE is dirt simple with good boosteds and a good roster.

Wake up, grind first 4. Play last 2-3 right before bed. If there's a chance for a nerf there I'll do the fifth clear around dinner time or a little later JIC. Easy top 20, sometimes t10. Minimal life impact. If I want to push harder once in a while, I can re-arrange my schedule and go harder for 2-3 days. (with first day clears and final end its less than the whole event).

PVP is just as simple if you plan well and aren't aiming for elite placement. Pick a slice that you can be around for that 3-8 hour from the end window. Float til then, then grind. Hop if you want, don't if you don't want.

Have a life and have very good placements....it's pretty doable.

Either this is false (see bolded portion) or you're playing in lowbie brackets. Every PVE I've ever entered has mega grinders in the top ten spots, new release or otherwise.

Today is day 365 for me and I have managed t5 for 2NR's (Medusa & Coulson). It just happens S1 suited me regarding my lunchbreak (end grind - done about 90mins before slice end) and dinnerbreak (start next sub grind). The best thing about PVE is I'm not forced to shield nor do I loose any of my earned points, whatever effort I put in I will keep and get the rewards. This is simply not possible for pvp.