What if it's not the devs?

Sarahschmara

I think our anger may be misplaced. I think the devs love MtG and work really hard at making the paper cards work in this format and striving to maintain balance. For the most part, they do a pretty good job. I think it's a labor of love for them.

This blatant cash grab feels like the work of accountants and MBAs with fancy charts and statistics and who have never played the card game.

I think they underestimated the amount of nerds in the player base. We're clever people and we resent feeling like we've been tricked.

Mainloop25

I think people are using "the devs" as a catch all term for the company in general. But you are right, designers rarely have any say in the monetization structure of an app like this unless they are the sole proprietors. It's usually top-down. Even with that said, we have problems with multiple aspects of the game and all levels of the company have a share of the blame.

Ohboy

Sarahschmara wrote:

I think our anger may be misplaced. I think the devs love MtG and work really hard at making the paper cards work in this format and striving to maintain balance. For the most part, they do a pretty good job. I think it's a labor of love for them.

This blatant cash grab feels like the work of accountants and MBAs with fancy charts and statistics and who have never played the card game.

I think they underestimated the amount of nerds in the player base. We're clever people and we resent feeling like we've been tricked.

Clever people don't think they're clever people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E ... ger_effect

Sorin81

Ohboy wrote:

Clever people don't think they're clever people.

"Stupid people do stupid things. Smart people outsmart each other, then themselves." ~SOAD

babar3355

Ohboy wrote:

Sarahschmara wrote:

I think our anger may be misplaced. I think the devs love MtG and work really hard at making the paper cards work in this format and striving to maintain balance. For the most part, they do a pretty good job. I think it's a labor of love for them.

This blatant cash grab feels like the work of accountants and MBAs with fancy charts and statistics and who have never played the card game.

I think they underestimated the amount of nerds in the player base. We're clever people and we resent feeling like we've been tricked.

Clever people don't think they're clever people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E ... ger_effect

Clever people are too inept to recognize their own cleverness? I really don't think that one holds up to the logic test.

Maybe revert to praising D3 for their amazing new communal game. There are no losers, we are all exactly the same! Your wordplay is not cutting muster.

Sarahschmara

Ohboy wrote:

Sarahschmara wrote:

I think they underestimated the amount of nerds in the player base. We're clever people and we resent feeling like we've been tricked.

Clever people don't think they're clever people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E ... ger_effect

Oops, I think I was being imprecise with my language again. I meant to say that the player base as a whole skews towards clever, not necessarily that specific individuals are (pretty sure I'm not the clever one )

MightyKrakyn

Ohboy wrote:

Sarahschmara wrote:

I think our anger may be misplaced. I think the devs love MtG and work really hard at making the paper cards work in this format and striving to maintain balance. For the most part, they do a pretty good job. I think it's a labor of love for them.

This blatant cash grab feels like the work of accountants and MBAs with fancy charts and statistics and who have never played the card game.

I think they underestimated the amount of nerds in the player base. We're clever people and we resent feeling like we've been tricked.

Clever people don't think they're clever people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E ... ger_effect

Yeah that may be great for their study....in 1999, but with the advent of the internet and the ubiquity of ranking systems throughout all parts of our lives, along with constant comparitive interaction between us and our peers....I bet it's not super accurate anymore, and it only lists the bottom 12th percentile as fitting the mold. The others are just "likely" to. I would need to see the study itself (**** in Psychology here).

Also, you can be a really unnecessarily contradictory person from time to time. And that's putting it nicely.

LeafHyren

It is a nice thing to bring up Sarah, and since people are bringing up cognitive biases let me bring this one up too


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias


We may all generally be seeking more and more evidence of evil intent or greed from devs, but it is nice to have someone bring up info that does not confirm what most would assume is true.

And I am pretty sure that Dunning–Kruger effect is a subset of people in that group not a defining characteristic.