Is it time for a daily deal on LTs?

Vhailorx

We have then on most other tokens. And demi is not a fan of hoarding.

So why not offer a good deal on latest LTs once a day? Vets will buy it and then have to roster the newer 4*s and 5*s, giving them more incentives to keep on buying to build their rosters.

Would you buy a daily latest LT at 15cp? How about 20? Is this idea stupid?

fmftint

I'd like a 10/40 packs
240/920 for latests
190/720 for classics

Chrono_Tata

The problem is the only "good" way to spend CP right now is on LTs, so people will have to buy it regardless. There is no need to incentivise people to buy more LTs with packs unlike with HP which can be used to spend on other reasonably priced things.

Vhailorx

Chrono_Tata wrote:

The problem is the only "good" way to spend CP right now is on LTs, so people will have to buy it regardless. There is no need to incentivise people to buy more LTs with packs unlike with HP which can be used to spend on other reasonably priced things.

Well, if you are demi and you don't like people hoarding thousands of cp, then adding a 15 or 20 cp daily tax will mitigate a lot of the downsides (from demi's perspective) of hoarding. People will still hoard, but it will take longer if they buy the daily deal, and they will also get new characters via the daily deal, which may tempt players into chasing covers for those new characters?

Jarvind

Vhailorx wrote:

Well, if you are demi and you don't like people hoarding thousands of cp, then adding a 15 or 20 cp daily tax will mitigate a lot of the downsides (from demi's perspective) of hoarding.

Do we actually know that hoarding is frowned upon by the Powers That Be, or is this just generally-accepted forum opinion? Genuinely curious.

Vhailorx

Jarvind wrote:

Vhailorx wrote:

Well, if you are demi and you don't like people hoarding thousands of cp, then adding a 15 or 20 cp daily tax will mitigate a lot of the downsides (from demi's perspective) of hoarding.

Do we actually know that hoarding is frowned upon by the Powers That Be, or is this just generally-accepted forum opinion? Genuinely curious.

Demi has never said that they oppose hoarding. But they clearly oppose it philosophically. Here is my logical chain:

(1) Demi/d3 make money when players purchase resources (typically HP), not when player SPEND those resources.
(2) Players are much more likely to buy resources when they are resource-poor then when they are sitting on a big pile of resources
(3) So demi has a clear financial motive to induce players to spend their resources down, at which point they become more likely to buy more, and indeed the game is littered with mechanics to pressure players to spend their resources (healthpacks, expiring covers, timed vaults, rotating token pools etc)
(4) Hoarding allows players to circumvent some of the pressure-inducing mechanics (see below)
(5) ergo, hoarding reduces demi's revenue

(as a fuller explanation of 4, consider latest LTs. Each 5* spend 12-18 weeks in the latest LT pool. Most players do not earn enough LTs/CP in that period to fully cover a given 5*. Players who expend their resources as they earn them, but don't quite finish a current 5* might then be incentivized to chase those last few covers by purchasing some CP. But by hoarding, players bypass that mechanic; they forego the short term thrill of opening tokens and save until they have so many resources that they can get everything they want without additional purchases.)

In summary: MPQ and any other freemium game makes its money from impulsive or habitual purchasing. Hoarding is an exercise in self-discipline that can only happen if a player rejects the idea of impulsive or habitual purchasing. There is no way that demi/d3 make more money from hoarders than they do from people who crack open every token and spend every CP as soon as possible.

GurlBYE

It's more time for a daily clash if anything.

A deal, I'd say 5 CP off the first token for the day, if we had to have something.

GurlBYE

Vhailorx wrote:

In summary: MPQ and any other freemium game makes its money from impulsive or habitual purchasing. Hoarding is an exercise in self-discipline that can only happen if a player rejects the idea of impulsive or habitual purchasing. There is no way that demi/d3 make more money from hoarders than they do from people who crack open every token and spend every CP as soon as possible.

Agreed,
I'd say instead of discipline though, forgoing the reward structure. That skinner box feel of do thing, get thing is interrupted

The issue biggest issue they face is while they don't want want hoarding, they keep pushing players towards it with their decisions.

One of the biggest ones being, hoarding mainly benefits powerful rosters. (Late 3 and beyond) and only becomes more beneficial the farther you get in the game, where each reward has a bigger monetary value.

They're weird.