Oath of the Gatewatch II grind worth it?

Machine
Machine Posts: 856 Critical Contributor
edited March 2017 in MtGPQ General Discussion
Hi community,

I'm looking for other people's opinions regarding the Oath of the Gatewatch II event. The first 40 ribbons earns you a combination of runes, crystals and boosters, but the last 15(!) points take a LOT of time to complete, almost always providing a dupe rare. More and more I'm pondering wheter or not to stop after 40 ribbons. However, since there's always a slight chance to get a fresh new KLD rare, I grind through the fights anyway.

Seen how much time it takes and looking at the difficulty of the fights, I think it's not worth the dupe rare. Would a mythic be better or will that imbalance the game? Any other reasonble options to improve the last reward at 55 ribbons?

FYI: I'm in platinum tier. I know that lower level tiers don't have the guaranteed rare. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Comments

  • majincob
    majincob Posts: 732 Critical Contributor
    I think that they could give the new jewel reward for stretch goals now since it is a % of a mythic instead of having to give out either whole mythics or random rares. A good balance and would make it worth it IMO and they could scale it to all the tiers instead of just Plat.
  • madwren
    madwren Posts: 2,259 Chairperson of the Boards
    I usually finish the event out of having nothing better to do, but if I'm pressed for time, I don't mind skipping the dupe rare.
  • Machine
    Machine Posts: 856 Critical Contributor
    majincob wrote:
    I think that they could give the new jewel reward for stretch goals now since it is a % of a mythic instead of having to give out either whole mythics or random rares. A good balance and would make it worth it IMO and they could scale it to all the tiers instead of just Plat.

    That's a very good idea. Let's see if the rewards for this event will change after the next release.
  • Sorin81
    Sorin81 Posts: 558 Critical Contributor
    I agree getting the first 40 and the rewards that go with it isn't so bad but I don't feel it's worth the time and effort to go for the last one.
    I usually hit 40 and go on to something else.
  • Mainloop25
    Mainloop25 Posts: 1,959 Chairperson of the Boards
    Machine wrote:
    Hi community,

    I'm looking for other people's opinions regarding the Oath of the Gatewatch II event. The first 40 ribbons earns you a combination of runes, crystals and boosters, but the last 15(!) points take a LOT of time to complete, almost always providing a dupe rare. More and more I'm pondering wheter or not to stop after 40 ribbons. However, since there's always a slight chance to get a fresh new KLD rare, I grind through the fights anyway.

    Seen how much time it takes and looking at the difficulty of the fights, I think it's not worth the dupe rare. Would a mythic be better or will that imbalance the game? Any other reasonble options to improve the last reward at 55 ribbons?

    FYI: I'm in platinum tier. I know that lower level tiers don't have the guaranteed rare. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

    I have done this event so many times now that I can get all the hardest points in about 3 to 4 tries. If your collection can't do that for you, maybe it's not worth it? I do like the event for PvE deck testing.
  • Machine
    Machine Posts: 856 Critical Contributor
    Mainloop25 wrote:
    Machine wrote:
    Hi community,

    I'm looking for other people's opinions regarding the Oath of the Gatewatch II event. The first 40 ribbons earns you a combination of runes, crystals and boosters, but the last 15(!) points take a LOT of time to complete, almost always providing a dupe rare. More and more I'm pondering wheter or not to stop after 40 ribbons. However, since there's always a slight chance to get a fresh new KLD rare, I grind through the fights anyway.

    Seen how much time it takes and looking at the difficulty of the fights, I think it's not worth the dupe rare. Would a mythic be better or will that imbalance the game? Any other reasonble options to improve the last reward at 55 ribbons?

    FYI: I'm in platinum tier. I know that lower level tiers don't have the guaranteed rare. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

    I have done this event so many times now that I can get all the hardest points in about 3 to 4 tries. If your collection can't do that for you, maybe it's not worth it? I do like the event for PvE deck testing.

    I can do all the fights and get to 55 points. That wasn't my question. It is just that it takes a long time to get from 40 ribbons to 55 ribbons. At 55 ribbons you'll only get a KLD rare, which is almost always a dupe. So, the discussion is about going for the last reward which in practice will come down to a very meager 200 runes (dupe rare).
  • Machine
    Machine Posts: 856 Critical Contributor
    -double-

    Sorry...
  • Abenjes
    Abenjes Posts: 253 Mover and Shaker
    I'm still chasing IWill so I'm playing just on the off chance it'll pop up.

    In the events original form we got a mythic. with the power creep since BFZ I think the event is only worth a rare but they should at least add another reward at 50 points
  • Mainloop25
    Mainloop25 Posts: 1,959 Chairperson of the Boards
    Machine wrote:
    Mainloop25 wrote:
    Machine wrote:
    Hi community,

    I'm looking for other people's opinions regarding the Oath of the Gatewatch II event. The first 40 ribbons earns you a combination of runes, crystals and boosters, but the last 15(!) points take a LOT of time to complete, almost always providing a dupe rare. More and more I'm pondering wheter or not to stop after 40 ribbons. However, since there's always a slight chance to get a fresh new KLD rare, I grind through the fights anyway.

    Seen how much time it takes and looking at the difficulty of the fights, I think it's not worth the dupe rare. Would a mythic be better or will that imbalance the game? Any other reasonble options to improve the last reward at 55 ribbons?

    FYI: I'm in platinum tier. I know that lower level tiers don't have the guaranteed rare. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

    I have done this event so many times now that I can get all the hardest points in about 3 to 4 tries. If your collection can't do that for you, maybe it's not worth it? I do like the event for PvE deck testing.

    I can do all the fights and get to 55 points. That wasn't my question. It is just that it takes a long time to get from 40 ribbons to 55 ribbons. At 55 ribbons you'll only get a KLD rare, which is almost always a dupe. So, the discussion is about going for the last reward which in practice will come down to a very meager 200 runes (dupe rare).

    I think you didn't interpret my answer the way I wanted you to. I meant, if you can't nail the hardest objectives in 3-4 tries, it's likely not worth chasing a rare from a set that you already have a lot of the rares from. If you don't have a lot of KLD rares, i still think it's worth the extra tries because it's less effort then, say, a qb grind.
  • Machine
    Machine Posts: 856 Critical Contributor
    Mainloop25 wrote:
    Machine wrote:
    Mainloop25 wrote:
    Machine wrote:
    Hi community,

    I'm looking for other people's opinions regarding the Oath of the Gatewatch II event. The first 40 ribbons earns you a combination of runes, crystals and boosters, but the last 15(!) points take a LOT of time to complete, almost always providing a dupe rare. More and more I'm pondering wheter or not to stop after 40 ribbons. However, since there's always a slight chance to get a fresh new KLD rare, I grind through the fights anyway.

    Seen how much time it takes and looking at the difficulty of the fights, I think it's not worth the dupe rare. Would a mythic be better or will that imbalance the game? Any other reasonble options to improve the last reward at 55 ribbons?

    FYI: I'm in platinum tier. I know that lower level tiers don't have the guaranteed rare. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

    I have done this event so many times now that I can get all the hardest points in about 3 to 4 tries. If your collection can't do that for you, maybe it's not worth it? I do like the event for PvE deck testing.

    I can do all the fights and get to 55 points. That wasn't my question. It is just that it takes a long time to get from 40 ribbons to 55 ribbons. At 55 ribbons you'll only get a KLD rare, which is almost always a dupe. So, the discussion is about going for the last reward which in practice will come down to a very meager 200 runes (dupe rare).

    I think you didn't interpret my answer the way I wanted you to. I meant, if you can't nail the hardest objectives in 3-4 tries, it's likely not worth chasing a rare from a set that you already have a lot of the rares from. If you don't have a lot of KLD rares, i still think it's worth the extra tries because it's less effort then, say, a qb grind.

    You are correct icon_e_wink.gif I interpreted your reply not the way you intented it. I agree with your statement. Since I don't own all KLD rares (and probably never will), I keep playing this event after the 40 ribbon mark, but like another user suggested, if I'm time pressed skipping the grind for the rare is not that bad.
  • arNero
    arNero Posts: 358 Mover and Shaker
    Yeah, the Oath II's 55-point reward, which can be a dupe, is pretty much not worth it considering how insanely difficult the last three enemies are, without even aiming for secondary objectives.

    This also brings another qualm of mine about the current iteration of the Oath Pve: There are only 56 points available in the entire event, and yet to get all progression rewards you have to win 55. That's absurd; I mean, why can't they lower the limit to something more reasonable, like 40 or 45? Let's just look at the PvP events: Most of them have 105 points maximum, and you can get all progression rewards with 60/65 points. That is relatively fair; Rank hunters will go the distance to win 105 points, while less fortunate players at least can aim for 65-point full progression, which is easier to do than 104 points.
  • span_argoman
    span_argoman Posts: 751 Critical Contributor
    Not pinpointing anyone in particular, but this topic shows the possible consequences of a suggestion proposed by some forum posters to do away with Ranking rewards in favour of a Progression Reward requiring full (or near full) points.

    If the suggested change was intended to reduce the discontent from players, what it would seem to do is just shift the discontent from one group of players to another.
  • Azerack
    Azerack Posts: 501 Critical Contributor
    Speaking as one only in Gold tier, where you get a KLD pack for the last achievement, sometimes I tried it, before, but for me I have chances of getting a KLD pack in other ways, so after 40 I just leave it and go back to QB's (where, coincidentally, you can also get a KLD pack).
    If I were in Platinum tier, I MIGHT try for it, but if it's, as you say, more often than not a dupe, it still wouldn't be worth it, honestly, for me to waste my time on it.
    I don't think I, either, COULDN'T do it, but currently the last reward, (maybe more) especially for Gold Tier, just isn't doing it for me. icon_e_confused.gif
  • Machine
    Machine Posts: 856 Critical Contributor
    Looking at most of your replies, I think that this event kills itself in terms of going for the last progression reward. Either the reward should be improved or the last reward should be easier obtainable. I agree that a KLD booster pack in Gold tier is no way near reasonable with regards to the difficulty of obtaining the 55 point mark.

    Another suggestion here is to my liking: make a complete progression rewards in favor of ranking rewards. That would also solve the time zone issues and the tie breaker problems.