Is there any realistic way to get packs aside from buying?
JerBear
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I spent $30 on a deal for the big box, some crystals and runes.
My game time is spent grinding story mode. I can only progress so much into anything because either my deck isn't good enough or I have no heals left, and even if I could heal all day, my deck is still my limiting factor to progression and how am I supposed to get the crystals needed for packs to make a better deck?
My game time is spent grinding story mode. I can only progress so much into anything because either my deck isn't good enough or I have no heals left, and even if I could heal all day, my deck is still my limiting factor to progression and how am I supposed to get the crystals needed for packs to make a better deck?
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Hi!
Free booster, even though the drop rate has been tuned down. Or at least, that is my personal experience. But constantly farming these can give you a good stock on uncommon cards. Besides that, events. Try to get the progression rewards there.
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Should I bother spending runes to level up sub par PW's?0
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That is a matter of personal opinion, I think.
I like to have all planeswalker first, before I start investing in booster packs.
That leaves me the opportunity, to have some planeswalker level up to 60 for story and PVE events and leave the others around 20 to 40 for PVP events and quick battle (I know you get less ribbons for that, but the chance to run into a crazy deck is way lower and you have the opportunity to try out not so strong decks for fun and still win).
And for the most part, the last 20 levels are quite expensive in runes but you don't get so much in return, I think.
Others like to have the cards first, before they buy a PW.
Your decision in the end, of course.
Regards!
Edit: I personally hope that they fix there matchmaking that way, that it is a reward to level your PW to 60 and not a punishment in PVP because they pair you up by level and not by performance...0 -
i find get planeswalkers you know you have cards you can use to make decent decks, red is i think easiest to make a decent deck just because the ai will screw it up so often. on red fill your creature remoaval first so when they are cast you can wipe them then let creatures get the spill over it is slower but a win is a win no matter how you do it.0
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OK my question is then, what's the best route to being efficient at getting crystals. PVE? In that case is it worth getting any of the 50 crystal starter PW's to max level to grind PVE or should I wait it out and buy a better one that fits the best cards I have? But then how long will it be until i recoup that investment in shards from PVE grinding? The game is just confusing to me in terms of figuring out what's the most efficient to get cards which equals obtaining shards.0
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You are a new player and so first off, welcome to the game!
Unless you are willing to spend big time on the game you will have to grind it out for a while, but don't get discouraged it gets better.
There are many ways to get crystals, shards and even cards in the game without dropping any cash.
Take it slow at first. Get one or two pw's leveled up. The best way to get the runes for this is to grind quick battle. You get 300 per win and even if you lose you still come out with 50 just for trying.
Head over to story mode with your leveled up pw and try to hit as many of the objectives as you can to rake in some crystals.
Don't forget to check back every eight hours to collect your free cards as this will help to build your card pool.
Once a day you will get a daily reward just for playing. At the bottom of the activity hub screen you will find this reward (you will have to scroll down to it). This is a good way to get runes, cards and shards and every month there is an extra reward for logging in 21 days.
I know it's a slow process but eventually you will build up a decent stock pile.
You can pm me anytime if you need any help and the people in this community are always willing to give advice.0 -
Sorin81 wrote:You are a new player and so first off, welcome to the game!
Unless you are willing to spend big time on the game you will have to grind it out for a while, but don't get discouraged it gets better.
There are many ways to get crystals, shards and even cards in the game without dropping any cash.
Take it slow at first. Get one or two pw's leveled up. The best way to get the runes for this is to grind quick battle. You get 300 per win and even if you lose you still come out with 50 just for trying.
Head over to story mode with your leveled up pw and try to hit as many of the objectives as you can to rake in some crystals.
Don't forget to check back every eight hours to collect your free cards as this will help to build your card pool.
Once a day you will get a daily reward just for playing. At the bottom of the activity hub screen you will find this reward (you will have to scroll down to it). This is a good way to get runes, cards and shards and every month there is an extra reward for logging in 21 days.
I know it's a slow process but eventually you will build up a decent stock pile.
You can pm me anytime if you need any help and the people in this community are always willing to give advice.
What do you think of this plan:
Waiting for a "good" PW to go on sale and spend crystals on that one to max out for story mode before "wasting" runes leveling up a beginner PW?0 -
It's a matter of opinion but these "beginner planeswalkers" aren't all bad. Lilliana was the first one I bought and I still use her as much as I do any other. IMO purchasing one of the cheap ones isn't so much wasting crystals, it's an investment that pays off in the long run.
The cards are what really matters. I've lost with the better pw's against some of the beginners just because they had better cards and admittedly had built a better deck than mine.
Whatever you decide to do just be sure you have the right cards for your deck.0 -
There are two replenishable sources of crystals (Quick Battle and Events) and one exhaustable source (Story mode). Between Quick Battle (QB) and Events, Events are more efficient for earning crystals however QB is your best source of runes which are needed to level up your planeswalkers to unlock more of their abilities. Also, it is relatively easier to earn new Rare cards in QB than in Events. Many veterans have a significant number of the rare cards which disincentivises them to participate in QB as their chance to draw a duplicate is so high. However for newbies, Rares build your collection so if you're impatient to build your collection and willing to grind, QB is the way to go.JerBear wrote:OK my question is then, what's the best route to being efficient at getting crystals. PVE? In that case is it worth getting any of the 50 crystal starter PW's to max level to grind PVE or should I wait it out and buy a better one that fits the best cards I have? But then how long will it be until i recoup that investment in shards from PVE grinding? The game is just confusing to me in terms of figuring out what's the most efficient to get cards which equals obtaining shards.
You need to hit the top 150 in QB to get a Rare, and the card will correspond to the colour of the QB round (check the QB banner after you have joined ie. played a match). QB rounds end on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays at UTC 02:00 AM (EST 09:00 PM). The crystal rewards for the QB ending on Tuesday (ie. the one that stretches over the weekend) are doubled. Try to time your first QB match such that you enter into a new bracket so that you can build a lead more easily. Definitely do not join within the first few hours after a QB round as ended as you will end up in the most unforgiving bracket (or two) for that new QB round. With experience, you will have a better idea when is a good time to join QB.
In QB, the number of points/ribbons you gain per win is based on the level of your planeswalker divided by 10, rounded down (except for 1-9 where it's rounded up). This means the higher level your planeswalker is, the more ribbons you get, but it also means you meet tougher decks. So you should only level your deck up to the tens where you feel comfortable with your win rate. I'd recommend possibly trying to work with level 30 or 40. Note that mastery does not affect QB in any way. You will face players of all tiers in QB as long as their planeswalker is within +/- 5 levels of your planeswalkers.
For Events, do not intentionally master your cards. This is a mistake that many newbies will make as they see the better rewards in the higher tiers. Without a good enough card collection, you will have trouble even meeting Progression in the Events you join. As a new player your main goal should be to hit the final Progression tier to get the 5-card booster to draw more cards. Placement in many of the Events require a sufficiently well-rounded card collection, so don't be setting top placement as your goal just yet. Many of us players have provided feedback to the developers to make the secondary objectives easier at lower brackets to tailor to new players and we hope they will take heed sometime soon.
It is also pretty important to join a good coalition (good being defined as having players who are willing to be helpful to newer players) to more quickly get up to speed on the game. You will benefit from coalition rewards during coalition events and will also not able to participate in Coalition PvE events like the currently running Revolt Against the Consulate unless you are in one. It should not be difficult to find coalitions who are hiring around this forum, just check out the coalitions subforum or people's signatures.
Planeswalkers
On to how to spend your crystals, there has to be a balance between crystals and planeswalkers. There are only very few planeswalkers who can perform well without the right cards to complement them. For that reason, you want to be avoiding any planeswalkers that mentions a specific creature type in their abilities unless you have good cards of that subtype (OR if it is a dual-colour planeswalker, unless you have good complementary cards in the respective colours [I will now call this the dual-colour caveat]). This rules out the following:
Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
Sarkhan the Mad
Arlinn Kord
Liliana, the Last Hope
Also avoid Chandra, Torch of Defiance and Dovin Baan because Energize doesn't synergise with anything outside of Kaladesh and Aether Revolt, which is bad for you when the bulk of your cards will be from Origins in the Bronze tier. Saheeli Rai is arguably strong enough that she can be played without caring about her abilities but still I would say go for someone more suitable unless the dual-colour caveat applies.
You want to avoid the weakest planeswalker in the game: Jace, Telepath Unbound. You probably want to avoid Liliana, Defiant Necromancer unless you have read up about her and feel you have a really good deck for her or some affinity with her. Reason being she get overshadowed by Ob Nixilis rather quickly. Likewise, Tezzeret the Seeker also very quickly gets overshadowed by Jace, Unraveler of Secrets and hence isn't exactly worth his crystal cost. Imo also avoid Sorin, Grim Nemesis unless the dual-colour caveat applies. People also seem to find more success with Nahiri the Harbinger over Ajani Vengeant so forget the latter for now. Which leaves you with:
Gideon, Battle-Forged (White) - Cheap and will serve you well at least up to Silver tier and in QB up to the 40s or so
Nahiri the Harbinger (White/Red) - Expensive in crystals (and runes to level up) but worth it especially for QB
Chandra, Roaring Flame (Red) - Cheap and will serve you well at least up to Silver tier
Koth of the Hammer (Red) - Mid-cost in crystals but worth it, especially for QB (but only when levelled up)
Ob Nixilis Reignited (Black) - Mid-cost in crystals but *very* worth it when levelled up
Jace, Unraveler of Secrets (Blue) - Mid-cost in crystals but worth it
Kiora, Master of the Depths (Blue/Green) - Expensive in crystals (and runes to level up) but worth it
Nissa, Vital Force (Green) - Mid-cost in crystals but worth it when you have good Green cards
Garruk Wildspeaker (Green) - Better when you're short on good Green cards, less good when you aren't
Also, you probably want to choose planeswalkers spread over different colours early on to: 1. try out the cards you draw, and 2. be able to participate in as many nodes in PvP Events as you can. Let your card collection guide you on which is the next planeswalker you want to save up for. Also planeswalkers will rotate in and out of the Vault every Thursday. You can check the upcoming planeswalkers in the Vault. Also use octal9's awesome site to check out what the planeswalkers can do at each level and the runes needed for them to attain a certain level.
If costs have not changed, the planeswalker prices should be as follow:
Origins Mono-colour planeswalker: 50 crystals [These are the ones who are permanently in the Vault]
Mono-colour planeswalker: 295 crystals
Dual-colour planeswalker: 650 crystals
Also bear in mind that dual-colour planeswalkers need twice as many runes to level up as mono-colour planeswalkers.
Of course part of this is going to be a matter of personal opinion. Sorin81 probably disagrees with me for dropping Liliana, Defiant Necromancer and Sorin, Grim Nemesis just like that. But he probably doesn't disagree on Jace, Telepath Unbound or on the creature type-specific planeswalkers or the first two Energize planeswalkers I mentioned.
Cards
There will come a time when you decide you want to spend crystals on drawing more cards. As a rule of thumb, always go for the Big Box (600 crystals, with the 14x or 15x text on its icon) as it yields you the most cards per crystal. The rest just aren't worth the crystal cost. The second question is which set to purchase a Big Box for. Due to the better cards in the BFZ/OGW and SOI/EM sets, and the insularity of most cards in the KLD/AER set, I recommend to purchase either BFZ or SOI when they cycle in. Origins is also an option, but you're more likely to (partially) fill up your Origins collection with the Progression rewards from Bronze tier events. So you might as well get a Big Box in BFZ or SOI at a chance at more new cards.
Also set your expectations right for drop rates. They only guarantee you a rare. Community collection of drop data indicates that the average Big Box yields you 0-1 mythics and 3-4 rares. On average, 1 in 2 people get a Big Box without a mythic card. Hopefully you are luckier than most, but there is no guarantee.0 -
Take it easy man. First, it is just a GAME.
And second, if you don't want to spend much money on it, you have to spend time on it. This rule works for almost every in-app paid games.- You need to get runes to level up all five planeswalkers set as default to Lv60. Quick Battle is a good way.
- Then, don't forget to get free booster every day. I got one mythic and several rare cards from free booster.
- Then, dont's forget to sign everyday for extra bonus! You can get 180
and 10 boosters for free every month! Although time-consuming, it is the stable method to - improve you deck and save for buying planeswalkers or boosters.
- Then, story mode can give you many by completing challenges.
Before there are so many events can be played, I can only do the Quick Battle all day, and my best record is 6th ....
I spend no money on MTGPQ, though it is a good game I should invest some....0 -
span_argoman wrote:Of course part of this is going to be a matter of personal opinion. Sorin81 probably disagrees with me for dropping Liliana, Defiant Necromancer and Sorin, Grim Nemesis just like that. But he probably doesn't disagree on Jace, Telepath Unbound or on the creature type-specific planeswalkers or the first two Energize planeswalkers I mentioned.
Awesome breakdown!
Only disagree because I'm fond of both of them. They absolutely have their drawbacks. Lilliana 1 just doesn't have the mana gains the newer planeswalkers do and Sorin is too creature dependent.
Love Jace 2, definitely worth the crystals.0 -
preferably lilly1 should be level 51 or above.
sorin works well with spawning creature cards.
sarkhan works fine without dragon cards.
all are fun to play and worth trying out. I would vote
gideon battleforged. cheap and cheerful, and fun.
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Join a coalition and start playing events. A good development coalition balances out established players with newer players so you start earning top 100 rewards. I manage 3. Send me a PM if you are interested.0
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Bken is right. Joining an active coalition will not only get you more rewards, but it will have a good community of players you can learn from and will keep you interested in the game.0
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And did somebody mention the daily rewards?
When I started this game, I found it accidently after a week or so. There is no reminder and you have to scroll down in the activity hub to find it...0 -
aww I feel you bro, and this is coming from someone from the other end of the stick, I feel like with every new expandion the difficulty curve for new players is rising constantly as there is a lesser chance to pull some "legendary" mythics IE hixus, mirrorpool, olivia, gisela, DtG. D3 doesnt do any favours by not even allowing newbies to buy SOI or BFZ packs.. and players who started early are now dominating ladders and getting in most cases dupe mythics while others can just look with envy at the top 5 in their leaderboards like a kid in sweetshop who knows he cant have any candiesJerBear wrote:I spent $30 on a deal for the big box, some crystals and runes.
My game time is spent grinding story mode. I can only progress so much into anything because either my deck isn't good enough or I have no heals left, and even if I could heal all day, my deck is still my limiting factor to progression and how am I supposed to get the crystals needed for packs to make a better deck?
We need either more guaranteed mythic sales or maybe new brackets for players who only played X amount of hours this game0 -
if you end up eventually going quick battles for runes and the free uncommon or gold card, the best advice i can give you is pay attention to the decks that beat you and steal their combos if you can. the ai wont do major ones well but you see cards that work well together try to work them into your decks, save yourself the time of finding good synergies by stealing them blind from others lol.0
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