How to beat enemies in PVE nodes with my roster.

Teskal

I have often the problem that I can't beat the enemies in some nodes. This problem began with the first 2* champ I got...

For example:
4/6 fight: Venom (197), Ragnarok (198) and Wolverine (198)

5/6 fight: Ares (222), Daken (223) and Venom (223)
This one I was really, really lucky in the fourth fight, used +2 AP purple/blue and +2 AP all colors with Magneto, Storm and Hawkeye.

Moonstone (197), Ragnarok (198) and Venom (198)
(Ok, in this l case a special node with Spiderwoman and she has only one cover)


I'm bringing in the moment all 2* to LVL 144 (they are from LVL 120 - 142).
My highest 3* are:
Ragnarok (LVL 167), Black Panther on (LVL 150), Dr Strange (LVL 130), Human Torch (LVL 130), few others are 90-114, more in my roster below.

Sadly I couldn't find anything about scaling, beside first 3 highest LVL characters make the difficulty. Which levels to soft cap for example?

That Rag and B.P. are so high is new, but not my problem with the difficulty.


>>My Roster<<

Tatercat

Teskal wrote:

I'm bringing in the moment all 2* to LVL 144 (they are from LVL 120 - 142).
My highest 3* are:
Ragnarok (LVL 167), Black Panther on (LVL 150), Dr Strange (LVL 130), Human Torch (LVL 130), few others are 90-114, more in my roster below.

Hard to tell, since I can’t see a link to that roster you mention, but my first advice would be to make sure you’re targeting Venom first in those nodes. His purple stun is so cheap, he’ll just lock you down as you try to take out the others, some of which are self-healing to drag out it even more. How’s your IM40? If he’s got 5 yellow he could really speed up your Rags or Human Torch, and especially Strange’s blue to stun targets (like the self healers) and drain ap with damage.

Also, always check Panther’s black to see what colors he’s giving the enemies when you do Rage of the Panther. Try to target around who would use that ap color – either wait to finished them off or if you’ve stunned them immediately after or before.

I've never bothered with soft caps until the 4* level, and even then only in limited, temporary cases, so I let someone else field that strategy.

Teskal

I thought >>my Roster<< would be in my signature. I entered in the first post, too.

The signature was indeed gone, rewrote it, too.



I will try to take out Venom first next time!

Tatercat

Thanks now I can see it. Well, your IM40 is only 3 yellow covers, so its not the best, but nothing to dismiss entirely if you get low on health packs trying to beat these nodes. If that Original Black widow build is current, I would switch her to 5/5/3, so you get that purple max ap steal, your Black Panther is probably higher in Black anyway, possible blue (Espionage has to have OBW’s symbol on the tile for it to double tap). In any case adding her to the mix might help you delay/deny their power.

Tho looking at your Panther, his black at two may not be worth it. Better to focus on his yellow and blue.

Also your 3* Captain Marvel has 4 yellow and she’s boosted for this event. So you can try having her tanking incoming hits, which then generates 5 red you can fuel a stronger red user like your Rags. While boosted, she’s may be even tank yellow to protect your Strange on hits. (and her red can get rid of any protect tiles Moonstone might have flipped. ) Her black can stun too.

Remember you should only need about 4 clears of each node to get the top progression (unless they’ve fiddle with something again. That 4 clears is obviously out on the 4* node (though what color is that Spiderwoman? I didn’t see it in your roster but her black can help mitigate some damage), but you might be able to offset the difference by grinding the trivial nodes at the end of each sub.

And if nothing else works, remember that the 2*Storm/2*Mags/*Hawkeye combo can still punch above its weight class with the strategy of making a 5 blue match with 2* Mags's purple to fuel Windstorm and trigger Hawkeye’s purple passive. Save red for 2* Mag instead of Hawkeye to gather more ap too.

Good luck!

Teskal

Spiderwoman has only the purple cover. Have her not long, so I forgot her to add to the roster.

I hope to get B.Panther soon into a champ, so I can change his colors. Should be in 2-3 days.

I'm thinking about adding covers for Strange with CP, so I can get him also fast up in Levels. Maybe also another one it worthy to get up with CP.

Only reason why I have OBW on 3/5/5 is because of the purple AP costs, but I will try 5/5/3 again, too. Preferable with a purple AP provider.

2*Storm/2*Mags/*Hawkeye are my favorite combo in the moment. But sadly fast beaten if I'm not very lucky to get many purple and blue on the field. (And red!)
Last fight against the Ares Group I won, because I had at the beginning 5 purple tiles I could destroy.

3* Cap Marvel yellow is better than I thought. Maybe I try a teamup with Magneto and Storm, to look if I get fast up Magnetos red with her. His red creates also AP of the destroyed tiles. (Do not know if it is)

Maybe it is worth to lower Mag's red to 4, to lower the AP costs to 9.

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I tried all 3* CapMarvel, Mag & Storm and won this time. Cap only with 714 hitpoints left, but all alive...

About the spiderwoman node, I will not do it any further in this subchapter.

I will check tomorrow how this combination will work again.

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Edit: updated the roster, but only few levels were missing, the page didn't took the last save I made few hours ago.

smkspy

You're just in that akward, 2-3 transition. You have enough 2s, but the majority of 3s are rather weak and the ones you do have built up aren't that great. Lean on your strengths is a I can say and experiment to get some asthat work well together. Try to focus on getting covers for specific 3s like im40, lazy cap, lazy thor, cyclops.

I pretty much relied solely on a team of obw, 2 star wolverine, and 3 cyclops during this period.

Tatercat

Yeah, lowering 2* Mags’ red to 4 isn’t a bad idea, you still get the 1 turn countdown with a minimal damage reduction, you just lose out on some ap. But if you’re killed before you can fire, it doesn’t matter anyway.

And yeah 3* Cap Marvel does cost health packs. But if you get her yellow to 5 covers, she also generates 3 black ap too. One day, your 3* Cyclops will be a great partner for her, or even a Hulkbuster down the line.

Teskal

Yeah, Ragnarok as Champ in the 2->3 transition was not my first choice. Would have preferred for example Cyclops, IM40, GreyBW, Patch, Iron Fist or LThor... I really hope I will get better 3* covers soon.

justsing

I spent some CP to get my IM40 yellow to 5 covers, and I don't regret it. I like to pair him with 2* Wolverine and 2* Daken. Use IM40's yellow to feed those two. Wolverine's green creates strike tiles to feed into Daken's blue. Use Wolverine red on the enemy you want to take down first. (I usually aim for Ares or Daken.)

Teskal

Just spent some CP for IM40's Yellow and put him on level 100. It works really good.

First time I read his power, I thought how lame. But I knew it for a while he is good, many said it already, in the alliance and in the forum.

I will champ Black Panther next. Mostly because I have another cover in the queue I do not want to sell.

I hope I can get me to hoard some iso-8, so I can add so many 3* to a high level as possible at once.


I wonder if someone added an 2nd IM40 to the roster or similiar good character to play with them if the other is not useable till the next available health pack.

madok

Teskal wrote:

I wonder if someone added an 2nd IM40 to the roster or similiar good character to play with them if the other is not useable till the next available health pack.

People definitely did that in the days before championing characters was a thing. Now you don't see it as much because the champion rewards are so good.