Bad cards, really bad cards, and total wastes of space.

buscemi

Here are some bad cards. These are just here for context... I don't mind them existing so much, even though they could be much much better. Some of them are deliberately bad to teach new players about the game, some of them have bizarre effects so it's not necessarily easy for players (especially new players) to determine if they're bad straight away, some of them are useful for story mode objectives, some of them just might have to be crammed into the deck of a player who's just started playing because he doesn't yet have anything better. I don't like the fact that there are so many of them in this game, but the existance any particular card is certainly defensible.

Nirkana Assassin
Celestial Flare
Hedron Blade
Hallowed Moonlight
Guardians of Meletis
Aven Battle Priest
Twins of the Maurer Estate
Skaab Goliath
Morbid Curiosity
Mage-Ring Network
Westvale Abbey
Sandstone Bridge
Bloodmad Vampire
Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim
Bruna the Fading Light
most of the meld cards, in fact
Deathless Behemoth
Paradoxical Outcome
Wildest Dreams
Aetherborn Marauder
Torrential Gearhulk
Odric
Healing Hands
Essense Extraction

Here are some very bad cards. Again, these are mostly here for context. They're all terrible, and they could all be buffed significantly without harming the game, and, indeed, introducing a lot more variety into it. But as I was making a note of these cards, a little voice in my head would say 'Dyou know, someone somewhere is going to say that this card is great, or at least playable, and I really can't be bothered to argue about it'. Hence they are here in the list of cards that are only very bad.

Processor Assault
Aerial Volley
Explosive Apparatus
Vessel of Volatility
Rush of Adrenaline
Retreat to Valakut
Lamplighter of Selhof
Chaplain's Blessing
Touch of Moonglove
Dual Shot
Thraben Inspector
Die Young
Akroan Jailer
Revolutionary Rebuff
Prism Ring
Felidar Cub
Stitchwing Skaab
Prophetic Prism
Obsessive Skinner
Kalastria Nightwatch
Hazardous Conditions
Dampening Pulse
Firemantle Mage
Vampire Noble
Timberpack Wolf
Outnumber
Moldgraf Scavenger
Kujar Seedsculptor
Deadbridge Shaman
Yeva's Forcemage
Senseless Rage
Silent Skimmer
Iona's Blessing
Harnessed Lightning
Guardian Automaton
Farbog Revenant
Cryptic Cruiser
Stenzia Masquerade
Stone Quarry
Woodland Stream
Silburlind Snapper
Riparian Tiger
Oran-Rief Invoker
Reclusive Artificer
Mortuary Mire
Eldrazi Skyspawner
Forsaken Sanctuary
Dark Dabbling
Chandra's Fury
Blisterpod
Undead Servant
Stormchaser Mage
Pale Rier of Trostad
Catacomb Slug
Matter Reshaper
Kalastria Healer
Eyeless Watcher
Mage-Ring Network
Brood Monitor
Radiant Flames
Make a Stand
Veteran Motorist
Taruju Warcaller
Briarbridge Patrol
Armorcraft Judge
Remorseless Punishment
Ugin's Insight

And here is a bunch of stuff that wastes everyone's time just by existing.

Roil's Retribution
Ornamental Courage
Nature's Way
Vessel of Nascency
Fiery Impulse
Clash of Wills
Bastion Mastodon
Spell Shrivel
Seagraf Skaab
Apothecary Geist
Unruly Mob
Vine Snare
Tormented Thoughts
Tide Drifter
Stone Haven Cleric
Pyre Hound
Make Obsolete
Might of the Masses
Kozilek's Sentinel
Gearseeker Serpent
Horribly Awry
Faerie Miscreant
Dukhara Peafowl
Drownyard Explorers
Dispel
Boiling Earth
Water Courser
Thriving Ibex
Ninth Bridge Patrol
Pressure Point
Shadow Glider
Mind Raker
Geyserfield Stalker
Courier Griffin
Calculated Dismissal
Blighted Woodland
Byway Courier
Thriving Rats
Sky Skiff
Ondu Greathorn
Ondo Champion
Maritime Guard
Makindi Sliderunner
Skyline Cascade
Goblin War Paint
Giant Mantis
Dutiful Return
Benthic Infiltrator
Aether Meltdown
Angelic Gift
Yoked Ox
Veteran Cathar
Thriving Grubs
Thornbow Archer
Ruinous Gremlin
Renegade Tactics
Rolling Thunder
Peema Outrider
Dominator Drone
Brilliant Spectrum
Voracious Null
Aether Theorist
Vile Aggressor
Tandem Tactics
Vestige of Emrakul
Refurbish
Rabid Bloodsucker
Makindi Patrol
Hydrolash
Ghostly Sentinel
Eyeblight Assassin
Dukhara Scavenger
Auramancer
Aspiring Aeronaut
Ally Encampment
Ulamog's Reclaimer
Thriving Turtle
Thriving Rhino
Night Market Lookout
Hitchclaw Recluse
Highland Lake
Highspire Artisan
Consulate Skygate
Blighted Gorge
Blighted Steppe
Taruju Stalwart
Sanguinary Mage
Roilmage's Trick
Rotshambler
Reckless Fireweaver
Nightsnare
Herald of Kozilek
Hinterland Logger
Blighted Cataract
Blighted Fen
Taruju Beastmaster
War Horn
Watcher In The Web
Ulamog's Despoiler
Weaver of Lightning
Walker of the Wastes
Extricator of Sin
Epitaph Golem
Consecrated by Blood
Gilt-Leaf Winnower
Filigree Familiar
Cliffhaven Vampire
Skyrider Elf
Ruin Processor
Hedron Archive
Halimar Tidecaller
Baloth Null
Duskwatch Recruiter
Reality Smasher
Mindmelter
Embodiment of Insight
Abundant Maw
Kessig Dire Swine
Torrential Gearhulk
World Breaker

I was bored.

Steeme

Interestingly enough, I don't use any of those cards. What a coincidence.

THEMAGICkMAN

You put torrential gearhulk on the first and the last list

ridfrenzy

That is just how bad it is

buscemi

THEMAGICkMAN wrote:

You put torrential gearhulk on the first and the last list

Then I guess you're allowed to argue with me about that one

ridfrenzy

I actually started Using Odric for FS 3.1 so that must be a good card now and you should remove it from the list

buscemi

ridfrenzy wrote:

I actually started Using Odric for FS 3.1 so that must be a good card now and you should remove it from the list

Was your deck perhaps covering over the fact that he's bad by using an OP card like, say, Deploy the Gatewatch?

ridfrenzy

Yup


7890

buscemi

Easy buffs to some of these cards which wouldn't break the game

Anything on the list with 1 power - give it 2 power
Anything on the list that costs >10 mana - make it cost 20% less


Why haven't we seen any card balance changes in months?

Steeme

buscemi wrote:

Why haven't we seen any card balance changes in months?

The fabricate animations are slowing them down.

mort47

I'm here to defend Roil's Retribution. I had it in a deck with Niblis of Frost and Day's Undoing. Card was nuts.

Astralwind

I have the answer for you. These cards exist as a filler so that we'll sink in more money and time until we draw the usable and good cards.
They keep appearing in your draws to obstruct you, and they make the life of new players hard, forcing them to want to buy more big boxes for the good mythics and rares.

Mainloop25

Lol I use Vessel of Volatility as my only support in that FS node where it destroys your supports. Other than that, I don't use it.

Daddystyx

All hail the great and powerful World Breaker in all his might and glory.

This card is on the worst list at the bottom.......Think he's trying to make a point?

OrionStar

Honestly, this is why I'm still in gold instead of platinum. There are so many cards that aren't worth adding into ANY deck.

blacklotus

i like prism ring in critterless Ob with 8 spells in the deck of which 5 are kill spells.

i have recently upgraded it to a Aetherflux Reservoir.

Daddystyx

I know you guys have amazing World Breaking decks designed to abuse this top shelf mythic with its amazing power to cost ratio?

OhanaUnited

Many of them were ok in Origins. But once you started adding cards in expansions, they just suck

Astralwind

I just got this card and I would like to add it to the list - Mind's Dilation.

It has been brought up before as one of the meh mythics.
What is it good for? Counter against green ulvenwald hydra decks or Harness the storm decks?
If I add this to my deck and I run into a deck that doesn't use spells at all, it's just an ornament decoration.

blacklotus

Astralwind wrote:

I just got this card and I would like to add it to the list - Mind's Dilation.

It has been brought up before as one of the meh mythics.
What is it good for? Counter against green ulvenwald hydra decks or Harness the storm decks?
If I add this to my deck and I run into a deck that doesn't use spells at all, it's just an ornament decoration.

probably good against mersicide's green decks. he uses the SP/Uhydra/Rashmi combos in his green decks.

ElvaanStride

As a new player, it was a relief to see I don't use any of these cards... anymore.

As the OP said, a new player has to use what they can. I ended up replacing everything in one of these lists. Hopefully that means I have SOME semblance of what is going on lol