Fluffyudders wrote: I was running a very high scoring 5-man alliance for the last PVE event, and fell out of the top 250. The only way I managed to get back up there was by using up my HP stash, buying two member slots and hiring 'freelancers' to push our score up. I'd be very interested to know how other 5-man alliances managed to maintain their spot in the top 250 without some kind of shadiness... I think we all scored around 250k each (did anyone hit 300k?) and needed around another 300k to break into the top 250.
IceIX wrote: PVP is Top 100 instead of 250, so it's tightened a bit there. Again though, Alliance median score wasn't much more than 200 across all Alliance members. I'd have to go through and click each count specifics, but I can quickly say over a dozen 5s did and more could have if they had tried as a group. It wouldn't have taken much more than 400 a piece to hit it. So not *easy*, but definitely viable to be a 5 at this point in time still.
mischiefmaker wrote: I don't know what the landscape is like now, but I can tell you that for the first alliance PvP (black panther yellow cover, I think, so fairly desirable), my alliance was five people: me and Lyrian, who would probably qualify as Top-5 players; two casual people we know IRL, who are more like top 10 to top 50, depending on how hard they want to try, and a random dude with a bunch of maxed 3*s (we got lucky there). We finished at 3350, which was good for something like 95th place.
Bowgentle wrote: Well, that post from Ice is not quite what my alliance experienced. In the fearless defenders we came in 101, missing the black Hulk by exactly ONE position. 12 man alliance, about 6880 points a few minutes before the end. So that "400 per member is good enough for top 100" simply doesn't ring true, at least not in the latest tournaments.
pasa_ wrote: Bowgentle wrote: Well, that post from Ice is not quite what my alliance experienced. In the fearless defenders we came in 101, missing the black Hulk by exactly ONE position. 12 man alliance, about 6880 points a few minutes before the end. So that "400 per member is good enough for top 100" simply doesn't ring true, at least not in the latest tournaments. Yep, IceIX dropped in some numbers but not the one answering the question then didn't bother with more direct answer. And his numbers don't really add up. So I really welcome this thread, please whoever has data points post them.
IceIX wrote: Alliance median score wasn't much more than 200 across all Alliance members.
Lyrian wrote: pasa_ wrote: Bowgentle wrote: Well, that post from Ice is not quite what my alliance experienced. In the fearless defenders we came in 101, missing the black Hulk by exactly ONE position. 12 man alliance, about 6880 points a few minutes before the end. So that "400 per member is good enough for top 100" simply doesn't ring true, at least not in the latest tournaments. Yep, IceIX dropped in some numbers but not the one answering the question then didn't bother with more direct answer. And his numbers don't really add up. So I really welcome this thread, please whoever has data points post them. Way late to this thread, but yes, you are onto something here. IceIX wrote: Alliance median score wasn't much more than 200 across all Alliance members. Note the underlined text. The median score was 200 across all alliances. This is discussing the 50th percentile. The problem here is top 100 placement for alliances has nothing to do with the 50th percentile overall. Last I recalled, there are more than 5000 alliances out there. There might even be close to 10000 by now. If there are 5000 alliances, then the top 100 is the highest scoring 2% of alliances. At 10,000, that is the top 1%. If the 50th percentile is at 200 points, then the curve for point distribution would seem to be heavily biased towards zero points, which would make sense if the vast majority of the player base is casual. Therefore, IceIX's data point, which has no reason to be incorrect, is immaterial to this discussion. What would be more relevant, is the median score of the top 200 alliances, for the 100 that earned the Hulk Black and the next 100 that did not. I believe I can safely say that the median score for the top 200 alliances would be significantly higher than 200 points. I personally would be surprised if the median average score for the top 200 alliances was less than 450-500 points, as the protection from point loss below 500 all-but-ensures that anyone that puts forth a reasonable effort can brute force to that score, even with significant point losses from attacks.
IHatePVP wrote: The Anti-PVPLeague will aid this endeavor, should we find ourselves near the rank thresholds. But, are you only interested in the cover rank cutoffs, or all the ranks?